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Old 03-23-2016, 04:28 PM   #29
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This is the most confusing car I've ever owned
It will be much less confusing when you actually get the fault code that the ECU is reading. This is like complaining that 'my girlfriend took me to dinner yapped for a half hour and then broke up with me, I don't know what went wrong', you'd know if you had heard what she said.

Many auto parts stores will read the code for free if you ask someone. The most recent one is likely still stored in memory and you can find out what it was still. The dealership probably cleared the memory before you picked the car up so all the prior codes are gone. However they might be listed on your bill from the service.
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Old 03-24-2016, 01:44 AM   #30
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The more computers a car has the more warning lights come on. Mercedes for example. bulb goes out. There's a code for that as well as cluster says light out even though half the time a light isn't even bad. Go to autozone of where ever and get the codes. Maybe the tech that was working on your car left a connector loose or something.
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The more computers a car has the more warning lights come on. Mercedes for example. bulb goes out. There's a code for that as well as cluster says light out even though half the time a light isn't even bad. Go to autozone of where ever and get the codes. Maybe the tech that was working on your car left a connector loose or something.

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more digitalized feature = convenient stuff = more sensors = more money to fix = complication = so on...

i understand technology is keeping changing and better but i sometimes just miss simple mechanical built car like 80s - 90s..
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I had a Honda that had a bad gas cap seal. I got a CEL on it quite a few times. What I didn't get was any other symptoms. I'd keep looking for the problem.


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Old 03-24-2016, 02:07 PM   #33
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Few days later went for a sprited drive with the sports mode on and manual shifting (car is A/T) and after about 15-20 mins the cel came back on. I said F*** it and drove home shut it off and let it sit for a day or so. Came back light was gone and drove fine. This is the most confusing car I've ever owned
You're only confused because you have incomplete information. To make it less confusing, get either a bluetooth OBDII adapter and Torque (Android) or a wifi adapter and DashCommand (iPhone) so you can read the codes yourself. If you're on Android, the BT adapter will run you $15 to $25 for a decent one off Amazon, and Torque Pro is around $6 on the Google Play store. Then you can read, research and clear your codes yourself. You can also monitor sensor data that the car has available but doesn't display on any of the stock gauges. Torque and DashCommand will do anything a $200 scan tool will do, and then some.

Then, when the CEL comes on, read it, write down the code and either search for it on the internet or come post it here to ask if anyone else knows what might be causing it. Confusion mitigated.

I once threw a code in rural Arkansas, read it with Torque, got on the internet to research it, found a thread on this site discussing it, determined that it could be cleared safely, used Torque to clear it and continued on my seven hour drive. All without getting out of my car.
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i understand technology is keeping changing and better but i sometimes just miss simple mechanical built car like 80s - 90s..
Bullshit, when's the last time you read codes off an OBD1 system? Cars haven't been simple for about 50 years when they started vacuum powering everything and creating rats nests of convenience and emissions features.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8nZpQyoRh4"]how to check obd1 codes in a GM using google - YouTube[/ame]
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Bullshit, when's the last time you read codes off an OBD1 system? Cars haven't been simple for about 50 years when they started vacuum powering everything and creating rats nests of convenience and emissions features.

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