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06-28-2022, 05:39 PM | #29 |
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I'm actually using my wife's Mini Cooper 3 cylinder base model lol. It's got more torque and lower in the rpm range so I can just squirt past people almost instantly. Doing that in my car is so slow in comparison, yet it has 70 more hp. The 86 makes a lot of noise and it's exciting, but it's painfully slow. In fact when I moved from my 2007 Cooper S with 2 busted cylinders and 132K to the 86, I couldn't tell the difference in speed. Maybe in 2nd gear from 5000-7400 rpm. But that's it. I absolutely can't wait to turbo/supercharge it
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Before buying any car considere this before. Hint: Pick only TWO
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And I will point out that all those times are the best squeezed out of them as well. This argument that the times for the twins have to be forced but every other single listed time is a just a leisurely press of the pedal and off you go is a farce.
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Because a 370z is only about $1k more, and way faster. And scored way higher in reliability. |
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Gas mileage, insurance, maintenance in general is higher than GT86. The only 370z i could buy is in midnight blue, touring trim, MT so I can "replicate" the devil z.
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20mpg combined vs 24mpg combined for manuals, 22 vs 26 autos. Insurance was basically the same for 2020 370z base vs 2020 brz base. Maintenance is basically the same as well, especially since I diy everything. |
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Twins can accelerate it's just easier to get caught with your pants down unless you are in the right gear.
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I guess it also depends on where you are and how fast normal traffic accelerates. In my area in Ohio I can keep up with traffic while shifting at 3000 RPM and the throttle only partially depressed. If I'm first at a stoplight and accelerate briskly to 40 MPH shifting at 5000 RPM I leave traffic far behind.
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I think you're missing my point. Sports car enthusiast are comparing the twins to other sports cars or somewhat sporty cars. When you compare the twins to other sports cars in a similar price bracket it's at the bottom of the list well below average. Also, the reason I pointed out the twins really had to push for a 6.3 sec 0 to 60 is because that's what I remember the guy who got the time said he had to do. Even so it's a moot point because it was still the second slowest with its best time. So if you have a manual you will be slightly faster than base model volume seller cars e.g. Accords and Camrys. If you have an auto I'll be just as slow as them or slower. The twins in stock form are not fast when compared to any modern sports car or even slightly sporty car.
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the car is slower than most sports cars for sure. it was never meant to be a drag racer, it's a momentum canyon carver.
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