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Dadhawk · 07-21-2022, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

I like this much better. The crease and small vent (Se that Subaru and Toyota) in the corner break up that big flat part that was distracting. ..

I definitely think the corners and bottom portion are 100% better, but I'm just not sure about the split grill and that upper portion. I'll call it 50% better.

Tcoat · 07-21-2022, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk

I definitely think the corners and bottom portion are 100% better, but I'm just not sure about the split grill and that upper portion. I'll call it 50% better.

I don't mind the split. The top is a bit too squared off on the sides but nothing horrid.
Like it 100% better than either of the second gen twins fronts.
I would buy that car exactly as pictured in a heartbeat even if it is a Nisson.

Dadhawk · 07-21-2022, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

I don't mind the split. The top is a bit too squared off on the sides but nothing horrid.
Like it 100% better than either of the second gen twins fronts.
I would buy that car exactly as pictured in a heartbeat even if it is a Nisson.

I think you are slowly convincing me. The more I look at it, the more I think it's the headlights I don't car for but I know they were trying to give them a feel of the OG models.

Definitely agree I like it like this better than either of the newer twin.

Tcoat · 07-21-2022, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk

I think you are slowly convincing me. The more I look at it, the more I think it's the headlights I don't car for but I know they were trying to give them a feel of the OG models.

Definitely agree I like it like this better than either of the newer twin.

Hard to tell but looks like there may be a small crease leading from the top of the upper grill back to the bottom corner of the headlights. Would help tie them together. Some views from different angles help.

Has running board aero not much better than the second gens but at least it ends in a better spot at the rear and doesn't look like a tacked on afterthought.

Dadhawk · 07-21-2022, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

Hard to tell but looks like there may be a small crease leading from the top of the upper grill back to the bottom corner of the headlights. Would help tie them together. Some views from different angles help.

Definitely much better from the almost normal view angle.

Tcoat · 07-21-2022, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk

Definitely much better from the almost normal view angle.

Yep. Automotive photographers really need to buy tripods that are more than 8" tall.

soundman98 · 07-21-2022, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk

From the quoted thread we also have this picture. I'm not really sure this is better....

the part i like about this is that it at least has some resemblance to a previous z model. the original front end has zero heritage at all, which is really weird with how much effort they put into the tail lights calling back on a previous model

Irace86.2.0 · 07-22-2022, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by soundman98

the part i like about this is that it at least has some resemblance to a previous z model. the original front end has zero heritage at all, which is really weird with how much effort they put into the tail lights calling back on a previous model

Bumper deletes were pretty common in motorsports and among enthusiasts.

ZDan · 07-22-2022, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

Bumper deletes were pretty common in motorsports and among enthusiasts.

I know, and I always HATED that look! Just terrible. But yeah, that's what they were aiming for...

I competed in time trials with my 240Z for years, and even though there was no minimum weight for my class I kept the bumpers (sans vertical elements and rubber strips) solely because the bumperless look is so god-awful. Three class championships and one FTD with this car that I should never have let go

Dake · 07-23-2022, 12:23 AM

I like the Fairlady concept/special edition front end better back when it first appeared, but it's still not quite right. The "bumper" shouldn't evenly bisect the opening, it should be a little lower (like 2/3 of the way down). I think that would finish it off nicely.

soundman98 · 07-23-2022, 09:21 AM

i definitely think they spent 7/8's their exterior design budget on the rear portion and then said "CRAP!! CARS HAVE A FRONT!!"

Dadhawk · 07-23-2022, 11:02 AM

Wow, I guess I didn't remember the early Zs having the same big ass ugly gapping grill as the new one. I feel slightly ashamed, but still don't like it.

vh_supra26 · 07-23-2022, 01:01 PM

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/th...or-the-z.1312/

Yoshoobaroo · 07-23-2022, 01:04 PM

The 350Z’s rendition of the big rectangular maw was much better executed.

The new one falls into the trap of straight up copying retro styling rather than adapting it to a modern rendition. Kinda like how a PT cruiser copies that style, and a Miata adapts the styling of British roadsters.

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Dake Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: FR-S Location: Houston Posts: 1,082 Thanks: 469 Thanked 841 Times in 424 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I like the Fairlady concept/special edition front end better back when it first appeared, but it's still not quite right. The "bumper" shouldn't evenly bisect the opening, it should be a little lower (like 2/3 of the way down). I think that would finish it off nicely.

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