Why would more power ruin the car??

[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by RToyo86

Just give us a improved header with more torque please!
Even offer one through TRD.

Really? There are 20something headers available! You can spend anywhere from $300 to $2k on one, catted or not, your choice. Or are you asking for a CARB approved one?

[Sapphireho]

Originally Posted by SCQTT

You're right. Some people get in a big hurry to go $40K deep in a car that is worth $20K. Its a fun hobby though.

Fun to have money to play with.

[Sapphireho]

Originally Posted by nikitopo

Who says that? You? Did you make a vehicle inspection and did you get an approval of your changes from an approved inspector? When I changed the factory suspension to coilovers the car was inspected twice by Dekra. First time it didn't pass even the changed part was suitable for the car and had all the necessary certifications. Everything counts and noone can say by himself that his car is safe.

If you are modifying a car to drive it in your own yard, then you can do whatever you like and you can say that nothing is ruined. If you drive it on public roads, then you should be responsible. At least in civilized and developed countries and not as you said in countries with oppressive governments.

Yep 100% safe.

[Sapphireho]

Originally Posted by nikitopo

Who says that? You? Did you make a vehicle inspection and did you get an approval of your changes from an approved inspector? When I changed the factory suspension to coilovers the car was inspected twice by Dekra. First time it didn't pass even the changed part was suitable for the car and had all the necessary certifications. Everything counts and noone can say by himself that his car is safe.

If you are modifying a car to drive it in your own yard, then you can do whatever you like and you can say that nothing is ruined. If you drive it on public roads, then you should be responsible. At least in civilized and developed countries and not as you said in countries with oppressive governments.

Oh, and I'm very responsible. Wash my balls everyday.

[Sapphireho]

Originally Posted by tomm.brz

lol

also in Japan you could swap springs with STi/TRD without problems directly at the dealer

also hks makes the uel header with the useless 100cells cat super small and it can pass emission test when coupled with stock front pipe

Europe has the most annoying and useless rules ever, and the funny things is Fiat and VW are the ones who break them first

My trd suspension was installed by the dealer, which they told me was now under full new car warranty.

[Sapphireho]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

I think you may have been misunderstand what I was saying. None of what I said was a critique or dismissal of power mods. I was simply pointing out why they are not what I want at this point in time. You are defending your personal choices when I was actually agreeing with you.

I was just throwing the commonly used number out there I know 300 would not cut it. I just used drag car as the extreme it was not intended to encompass all heavy modded cars or imply they all hit a strip.


Yes, I was talking about people that strip their cars down. Not saying not to or it is wrong just saying that for ME it would defeat the purpose for which I bought it. To pull all of the things that keep it practical for my needs out to save a bit of weight and increase speed a tiny bit would not make sense to ME. I rarely get to open it up and use what power it has as it is so don't need to go looking for more.


There are loads of guys that have totally reliable FI cars but each individual success story does not mean there is not increased level of risk. I am not prepared to take that risk. I need my car road worthy every day with the lowest possibility of failure possible. Even if there is an problem and I can fix it (or have it fixed) I would rather reduce the risk of an issue to start with. The definition of "daily driver" is also very different for some people. Don't know how much you drive daily but for me 12,000 miles was done in my first three months of ownership.

12,000 is 3 years for me, even going on evening and weekend drives in the hills.

Different situations, all good, not ruined.

[Sapphireho]

Originally Posted by cjd

I'm feeling ornery, so I'll say it.

Enough of these cars show up wrapped around trees or otherwise destroyed by people that can't handle the car as it sits... more power would not help. I like my insurance rates being higher than I like, but still affordable... I've seen them go up simply because the vehicle has been categorized as higher risk already...

Everything out there would do well with a good deal less power.

ok Mom.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Sapphireho

Oh, and I'm very responsible. Wash my balls everyday.

[Sapphireho]

Guy that keeps it stock=not ruined
Guy who strips for drag racing and puts in LS=not ruined
Guy who makes it a FI canyon carver= not ruined
Guy who makes silly red shift knob=not ruined
Guy who puts tiny tires and gears down for autocross=not ruined
Guy with big wing for track=not ruined
Guy with big wing just for rice=not ruined
Guy who puts 200lbs of chrome on for show car=not ruined.

[Lantanafrs2]

Good tank of e85 and a few miles for ecu to realize it = fast enough. Lol no big brakes , big tires reqd. Screw the ginsu purists. Cah now much bet tah

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by Sapphireho

Guy that keeps it stock=not ruined
Guy who strips for drag racing and puts in LS=not ruined
Guy who makes it a FI canyon carver= not ruined
Guy who makes silly red shift knob=not ruined
Guy who puts tiny tires and gears down for autocross=not ruined
Guy with big wing for track=not ruined
Guy with big wing just for rice=not ruined
Guy who puts 200lbs of chrome on for show car=not ruined.

Factory adding more power = ?
Factory not adding more power for the next 10 years = ?

[Sapphireho]

Originally Posted by Spuds

Factory adding more power = ?
Factory not adding more power for the next 10 years = ?

Factory exists to make money. Who knows what they will do.

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by Sapphireho

Factory exists to make money. Who knows what they will do.

But might it ruin the car?

[Sapphireho]

Originally Posted by Spuds

But might it ruin the car?

No