Um guys? Scion's Own FT86 Coming to New York Show Next month?

[Dragonitti]

Originally Posted by blur

Nascar V8s? none lol. But I was referring to the frankenstein builds, and you hadn't quite answered my question and jumped to PTunings moderately tuned tC. Which is why I was confused in the first place. A good 3 posts back, talk about deflecting (again) lol.

The question was how many with V8's. What are you even talking about anymore. Sounds like you are trying to find all reasons to poke holes into something when you have clear cut answers, so now you are trying to alter your questions down to being "nit-picky" to make some kind of point....which I'm not even clear what point you are trying to state. Keep talking about what Scion is doing...yet EVERYONE does this. Maybe I should ask you this then..."What is your definition of a frankenstein build?". Is a Nissan 350z Vert with a Titan V8 swap considered Frankenstein? How about a 240sx with a V8 in it? I already know the answer before you even answer it.

LOL...PTuning moderately tuned tC? If 600+whp is considered moderately tuned....I guess I should aspire to be moderately tuned someday.

Originally Posted by blur

I was just leading into my next point, that wasnt about scion. But now that you mention it, it is the only car we've ever seen with so much marketing behind it in motorsports. Considering the stock car is not capable of drifting even in the tiniest bit, its astonishing that its everywhere in the drifting world. Its no wonder they're getting so much hate from grassroots drifters. BTW fun fact: did you know the first US drift champ drifted a FWD civic?

So? Who cares if the stock car has to be modified more extensive than most enthusiast are willing to go to drift with it. That again...ONE aspect of Motorsports that they compete in. Stop short changing all the others just so you can pick on one section. Can a showroom stock Scion pull a sub 1:00 lap time on my road course? This is Motorsports...cars are modded to perform in said event. What motorsports do you know of that cars compete 100% like they came from the factory? Come on man, seriously...be real here and stop trying to nit and pick talking points that apply to one specific situation, when there are multiple examples.

Originally Posted by blur

Exactly, some. Those that aren't allow themselves to be bought out by scion. Get paid to drive something they couldn't care less about.

As mentioned....that's not NEW News. It's done by ALL PRO DRIVING Motorsports. Sorry you can't exactly program GREED out of people.

I'm a bit exhausted on this subject now. All you keep doing is trying to "one-up" me on something that all the Auto manufactures/Teams involved, do. So, it's whatever you want to think. I've answered you. Some how you got this idea that I managed to dodge a question when I clearly answered you.

[Matador]

Originally Posted by Dragonitti

Just trying to catch my post count up to yours...

I only got a year headstart, so you know, you'll get there

[Dragonitti]

^^LoL..

[jmc]

I know Scion has a countdown for their new vehicle to be unvieled in New York next month, but I sure hope it is a revised Toyota iQ and not a rebadged Toyota FT-86!

[Dimman]

Is it immature to think that Scion is counting down to reveal another boxy design.

You know, a new, hot, boxy design. On 4/20...

[NESW20]

Originally Posted by Dimman

Is it immature to think that Scion is counting down to reveal another boxy design.

You know, a new, hot, boxy design. On 4/20...

lol, i see what you did there.

[xclusive_brett]

why would they show a revised iq when it is already in production? they just pushed the launch back cuz the new tc. iq releases in may...

[Calais]

Originally Posted by Archer256

Umm reread your post or the article because they said - Toyota USA rejected MARK I and forced the more aggressive MkII design. If anything this is more reason that it's coming to Toyota and not Scion lol

i was thinking along the line that it was rejected because it was too tame for younger people to buy(scions demographic) so they got it redesigned. and wasnt the concept for the tc all aggressive like this, and then toned down for production? thats why i thought it was adding weight to the "as a scion" agrument

[ryun84]

Originally Posted by Dimman

Is it immature to think that Scion is counting down to reveal another boxy design.

You know, a new, hot, boxy design. On 4/20...

Originally Posted by NESW20

lol, i see what you did there.

LOL! I had to do a double-take, but it was worth it.

[blur]

Originally Posted by Dragonitti

As mentioned....that's not NEW News. It's done by ALL PRO DRIVING Motorsports. Sorry you can't exactly program GREED out of people.

Thats exactly my point. (Most of)The ones driving scions do it out of greed, not preference. Therefore . . . I rest my case.

[Archer256]

Originally Posted by Calais

i was thinking along the line that it was rejected because it was too tame for younger people to buy(scions demographic) so they got it redesigned. and wasnt the concept for the tc all aggressive like this, and then toned down for production? thats why i thought it was adding weight to the "as a scion" agrument

plausible, but the whole point of the car is to get young people back into Toyota itself. It's still up in the air though i guess.

Am i dumb for hoping the new IS is based off this/LFA/ hell even the new GS if its sexy? Throw a new Toyota/Yamaha engine in it...orgasm.

[aliphian]

Originally Posted by Calais

i was thinking along the line that it was rejected because it was too tame for younger people to buy(scions demographic) so they got it redesigned. and wasnt the concept for the tc all aggressive like this, and then toned down for production? thats why i thought it was adding weight to the "as a scion" agrument

I would say that the MK1 variant would fit into the current production Scion lineup. I'm still hoping it's a Toyota though. I also hope that it lights a fire under Nissan's ass and we see an S16 in the next few years.

[zigzagz94]

Originally Posted by Dimman

Is it immature to think that Scion is counting down to reveal another boxy design.

You know, a new, hot, boxy design. On 4/20...

I'd be down for that option

[Calais]

Originally Posted by Archer256

plausible, but the whole point of the car is to get young people back into Toyota itself. It's still up in the air though i guess.

Am i dumb for hoping the new IS is based off this/LFA/ hell even the new GS if its sexy? Throw a new Toyota/Yamaha engine in it...orgasm.

you dont have to tell me the whole reason for this car and if you look back at the older scion v toyota threads you'll see i am firmly on the side of it being a toyota(even though im in australia).

the IS/LFA/GS are totally different cars which have totally capable platforms for their intended use, let this platform only be for the ft and subaru variant, if any other cars were to get it they would be the yaris, corolla and prius(hahaha), not the large sedans