Anyone worried about chirping/idle/taillight condensation issues? - Page 2 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Nafe · 06-27-2012, 05:33 AM

Idle dip and raise with air cons witching on is nothing abnormal, especially on smaller engines. There is load added/taken away from the engine when this happens, so of course it will have a slight affect on the idle.

JDM-dono · 06-27-2012, 05:45 AM

^ Yup, not so much worried about this. But quite worried about the chirping issue.

Nafe · 06-27-2012, 05:52 AM

Yeah, that seems a little more serious.

dangerfield · 06-27-2012, 09:21 AM

I haven't had any problems so far, but I'll keep you guys updated if anything does happen. *knocks on wood*

Stu L Tissimus · 06-27-2012, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDM-dono

However, according to much discussion in the US thread, Subaru and Toyota technicians have found that it may be due to cam slipping or perhaps the cam sensor not being accurate:

Hi there,
Please don't put words in other peoples' mouths. I brought the car in for the idle issue; I've noticed absolutely zero chirping. These may be separate issues. Thanks!

EDIT: to the guy below who said 'wat,' in this post: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...8&postcount=14 , the guy says that the camshaft / oil valve replacement were for the chirping issue. They were not.

spiller · 06-27-2012, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu L Tissimus

Hi there,
Please don't put words in other peoples' mouths. I brought the car in for the idle issue; I've noticed absolutely zero chirping. These may be separate issues. Thanks!

wat?

RZ86 · 06-27-2012, 12:22 PM

Ah balls. I thought this was normal.... so yep, mine has this issue. I'll be speaking to toyota tomorrow.

JDM-dono · 06-27-2012, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu L Tissimus

Hi there,
Please don't put words in other peoples' mouths. I brought the car in for the idle issue; I've noticed absolutely zero chirping. These may be separate issues. Thanks!

EDIT: to the guy below who said 'wat,' in this post: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...8&postcount=14 , the guy says that the camshaft / oil valve replacement were for the chirping issue. They were not.

No worries Stu L Tissimus, like I said in the opening post I was heavily relying on memory. All I'm doing is informing the Australian 86/BRZ community about this issue. I'm not exactly up to date with this topic.

Btw, if it isn't an camshaft/oil valve replacement issue then can you please inform us as to what the problem is? Looks like you know what's going on.

In terms of chirping issue vs idle issue I put them separately under two different bold headings in hope of informing ppl that they may be perhaps two different issues, hope that clears it up.

Satu23 · 06-28-2012, 10:03 AM

So far i haven't had any chirping or idling issues... in my 86 at the moment. Have done 500km so far. Build date for my 86 was April

Idles regularly around 600-800 rpm, and when first starting up around 1.2k

testing when going 70-80km and slowing down for red light and shifting into neutral and clutch out. At first, when close to stopping it drops to about 1k then does a mini dip to about 800 and back up again, once stopped waiting for a little for the lights to change it idle's around 600-700.

So far no issues for me and i hope it stays that way

Quite scary though considering the link to the US one where whiteout's FRS died

Nezz · 06-28-2012, 10:13 AM

Kinda wondering if the TRD taillights will experience the same issue, I was thinking about nabbing a set...

w arghh x · 06-28-2012, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Satu23

So far i haven't had any chirping or idling issues... in my 86 at the moment. Have done 500km so far. Build date for my 86 was April

Idles regularly around 600-800 rpm, and when first starting up around 1.2k

testing when going 70-80km and slowing down for red light and shifting into neutral and clutch out. At first, when close to stopping it drops to about 1k then does a mini dip to about 800 and back up again, once stopped waiting for a little for the lights to change it idle's around 600-700.

So far no issues for me and i hope it stays that way

My wrx runs exactly like this, so I doubt you will have the same issues as the US guys.

Does anyone know what difference there is in the fuel quality between the US and AUS??
Seems odd that they run 91/93 octane yet we are told to run 98 (95 at a minimum)

ahausheer · 06-28-2012, 11:06 AM

Lets also keep in mind there is a warranty and ALL cars have all kinds of weird issues. Pick the most reliable car you can think of and then find its service bulletins and or recalls. They all have them and they all have a horror story here and there. The issue is the percentage of cars that have them and Toyota and Subaru are typically very very good is this respect. I am not concerned but I will stay up to date on issues that others are having. Its basically putting your faith in statistics.

Stu L Tissimus · 06-28-2012, 12:46 PM

That's quite alright, I didn't want anybody to be misinformed is all

HER86 · 07-19-2012, 09:04 AM

I've noticed some serious condensation in my tail lights every morning ( i'll try to take a photo tomorrow) that seems to go away by the time I get to work and look at the again. Has anyone else in Aus noticed this problem? Should I be concerned and talking to my dealer?

06-27-2012, 12:22 PM	#21
RZ86 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 2012 Toyota GT 86 Manual Location: Melbourne, Australia. Posts: 193 Thanks: 37 Thanked 77 Times in 44 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Ah balls. I thought this was normal.... so yep, mine has this issue. I'll be speaking to toyota tomorrow. __________________ Current: '12 Toyota GT 86 Pearl White Manual Previous: '96 Toyota Supra SZ-R

06-28-2012, 11:06 AM	#26
ahausheer Re-member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: Toyota camry Location: S. Cali Posts: 1,001 Thanks: 98 Thanked 292 Times in 152 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Lets also keep in mind there is a warranty and ALL cars have all kinds of weird issues. Pick the most reliable car you can think of and then find its service bulletins and or recalls. They all have them and they all have a horror story here and there. The issue is the percentage of cars that have them and Toyota and Subaru are typically very very good is this respect. I am not concerned but I will stay up to date on issues that others are having. Its basically putting your faith in statistics. __________________ Nothing decays like progress, and nothing preserves like neglect.

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06-27-2012, 05:33 AM	#15
Nafe Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: Mt Fuji Red 86 GT Location: Brisbane Posts: 888 Thanks: 9 Thanked 109 Times in 86 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Idle dip and raise with air cons witching on is nothing abnormal, especially on smaller engines. There is load added/taken away from the engine when this happens, so of course it will have a slight affect on the idle.

06-27-2012, 05:45 AM	#16
JDM-dono Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Drives: WRB BRZ '13 Location: Australia Posts: 298 Thanks: 56 Thanked 55 Times in 32 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	^ Yup, not so much worried about this. But quite worried about the chirping issue.

06-27-2012, 05:52 AM	#17
Nafe Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: Mt Fuji Red 86 GT Location: Brisbane Posts: 888 Thanks: 9 Thanked 109 Times in 86 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Yeah, that seems a little more serious.

06-28-2012, 10:03 AM	#23
Satu23 Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: Toyota 86 GTS Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 75 Thanks: 43 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	So far i haven't had any chirping or idling issues... in my 86 at the moment. Have done 500km so far. Build date for my 86 was April Idles regularly around 600-800 rpm, and when first starting up around 1.2k testing when going 70-80km and slowing down for red light and shifting into neutral and clutch out. At first, when close to stopping it drops to about 1k then does a mini dip to about 800 and back up again, once stopped waiting for a little for the lights to change it idle's around 600-700. So far no issues for me and i hope it stays that way Quite scary though considering the link to the US one where whiteout's FRS died

06-28-2012, 10:13 AM	#24
Nezz 86DESU Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 86 GTS, S13, CB9 Location: Victoria Posts: 294 Thanks: 25 Thanked 69 Times in 51 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Kinda wondering if the TRD taillights will experience the same issue, I was thinking about nabbing a set...

06-28-2012, 12:46 PM	#27
Stu L Tissimus Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: MT GB BRZ Limited Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 76 Thanks: 0 Thanked 28 Times in 17 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	That's quite alright, I didn't want anybody to be misinformed is all

07-19-2012, 09:04 AM	#28
HER86 Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: White GT86 Location: Sydney Posts: 22 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I've noticed some serious condensation in my tail lights every morning ( i'll try to take a photo tomorrow) that seems to go away by the time I get to work and look at the again. Has anyone else in Aus noticed this problem? Should I be concerned and talking to my dealer?

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