Ultimate DD/Track Suspension

[Captain Snooze]

Originally Posted by ModBargains.com

Only disadvantage is that I believe the KW's are twin tube, which is perfectly fine for the street, but isn't going to be as good when it comes to performance against a mono-tube shock.

[pedant]
I am suggesting a good twin tube damper is better than a bad monotube. Ohlins TTX36 are twin tube and I suspect these are of a higher quality than Ksport Kontrol Pro dampers which are monotube.
[/pedant]

[OkieSnuffBox]

Originally Posted by stoked_on_spool

I know there's always a compromise, but was HOPING there was a magical offering I hadn't yet discovered... lol.

I have camber bolts (aligned at -1 deg) and my current suspension includes eibach pro-kit springs with koni yellow single adjustable shocks. I was pretty content with that setup and thought it would carry me farther into owning the car (hence I was saving up for a supercharger) but after driving around my bosses M4 and feeling how tuned his TC Kline 2 way setup was, it put into perspective how rigid and unforgiving my setup is. I know these are completely different platforms, but every time I get in my car now I can't help but realize how bumpy it is over the same exact road and it's starting to annoy me a bit. I know this is a "sports car" and it will not handle like my fiancee's Volvo, but I'm not happy with these koni's no matter how I adjust them.

I've tried making it out to a couple different 86Cup events but they haven't lined up for me yet with work and life getting in the way. So far I've done track days with Socal Audi at SMMR (my boss was my instructor), then Porsche LV at SMMR and finally AROSC at Buttonwillow where they couldn't provide an instructor. I'm all about being open minded and listening to instructions and feedback. First HPDE was completely stock, over worked the brakes as it was 100+F and kept all the nannies on. Second HPDE day was 100+ again but I had camber bolts and the lowering springs and put it in sport mode to try and feel the car move a bit more. Third event I purchased a set of Mach V 17x9 and had 245/40/17 RS3's I tried out on the second day to feel the difference between the car on stock tires vs wider sticky tires. I'm buying a set of track pads and doing DOT4 brake fluid before the next event, so that's where I'm at in terms of where I am driving wise and looking towards the future. As i said earlier, I'm hooked on doing HPDE's and I want this car to eventually become a dedicated weekend/track car, but in the meantime, I'd like something I can adjust to be more compliant than my current setup on the street but be capable on the track as well.

Thanks again for all the input everyone. I'll be looking out for the next event to do ride alongs in addition to finding some local people in the SD club to see the street friendly setups.

-Bret

If you aren't even on track pads yet, just stay with your current suspension.

[P@ul]

You have Konis? Put the stock springs back on... Hahahaha!

[RBbugBITme]

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

[pedant]
I am suggesting a good twin tube damper is better than a bad monotube. Ohlins TTX36 are twin tube and I suspect these are of a higher quality than Ksport Kontrol Pro dampers which are monotube.
[/pedant]

A TTX is not a conventional twin tube. Very different layout.

[smg1138]

I've seen a lot of discussion on coilovers here. But what would you guys consider the ultimate DD/Track setup when it comes to a spring and strut combo? Maybe a custom valved Bilstein? I'm just kind of curious.

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by smg1138

I've seen a lot of discussion on coilovers here. But what would you guys consider the ultimate DD/Track setup when it comes to a spring and strut combo? Maybe a custom valved Bilstein? I'm just kind of curious.

Very very mild lowering springs + shock(s) of your choice that has the proper valving for the spring rate.

Or

Lowering springs of your choice + short stroke shocks designed for lowering springs.

-alex