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View Poll Results: Which Intake Would Is the Best For the BRZ/FR-S
Injen 3 15.79%
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Takeda 3 15.79%
Perrin 3 15.79%
Greddy 3 15.79%
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Old 08-02-2015, 08:19 PM   #15
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The only one that will net meaningful gains is the one that is bolted to a supercharger.

You're assuming that some small aftermarket company can design a better tube than Subaru and Toyota who have no reason to restrict the engine in this way.
Aftermarket manufacturers will disagree with you. I'm guessing they find their net financial gains quite meaningful.
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The only one that will net meaningful gains is the one that is bolted to a supercharger.

You're assuming that some small aftermarket company can design a better tube than Subaru and Toyota who have no reason to restrict the engine in this way.
The reason aftermarket products can so easily be better than what comes with your car is because original manufacturers use heavier materials, more restrictive products that not only goes by standards of law but also helps so they don't get a lawsuit in the long run and this reduces production cost. Aftermarket products are just more like, you want light and stainless steel? Here you go, what you want louder? We'll take the car off for you too.
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What is this? The 519th thread on this now? FFS.
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How about a poll asking which combination of lightweight crank pulley and lightweight flywheel is best? That's new, right?
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How about a poll asking which combination of lightweight crank pulley and lightweight flywheel is best? That's new, right?
You had to go there, didn't you?
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This statement looks dodgy. You need a dyno chart to validate it.
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Just pick the prettiest one or the one with the coolest sticker for your back window.
Many cars can benefit from an aftermarket intake. This is not one of them.
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original manufacturers use heavier materials, more restrictive products that not only goes by standards of law
So which intake is lighter and how much lighter is it than stock?
What is less restricted by the aftermarket "products"?

I have yet to see a benefit from aftermarket intakes on modern cars. Feel free to prove me wrong, but you must PROVE me wrong, not just say "oem's are restricted" explain to me how with evidence. And imo a 5 hp gain on a dyno chart is irrelevant, too many variables and at best placebo gains.

There is no benefit to the OEM "restricting" the intake.
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There is no benefit to the OEM "restricting" the intake.
In a perfect world this is true but there are other considerations to take into account. Time to develop a better intake verses return on investment, expertise of designers, cost of manufacture, suppliers pricing (that is, does oem make the part them selves or subcontracted to an external supplier), does the engine still meet emission requirements at 200,000 kilometers? (or what ever Euro 4/5 is ).

Here it is again. I know you already know this but it may have slipped from memory. Ready?

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