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Poodles · 06-10-2015, 10:58 PM

There's always that electric supercharger...

tahdizzle · 06-11-2015, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Poodles

There's always that electric supercharger...

Dream20b · 06-11-2015, 12:36 PM

Why not both?

Dustin · 06-11-2015, 12:51 PM

Never been disappointed with my choice of a supercharger. I've had it for over a year with no issues. Daily drivability and reliability is not an issue.

STV3 · 06-11-2015, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dustin

Never been disappointed with my choice of a supercharger. I've had it for over a year with no issues. Daily drivability and reliability is not an issue.

How big was the difference in you gas mileage?

evo4g63 · 06-11-2015, 01:25 PM

I have had 3 different FI setups on the 86 platform. I first started out as one of the first Innovate kits with a JDL EL header, Greddy axle back on the stock pulley and e85. The car responded very well down low and mid range. The top end struggled a little but wasnt a big deal to me for what I used the car for. Mpg on ethanol for daily driving was down to roughly 18mpg at best not even really going WOT on the car. I moved to a JDL single scroll, EL manifold, PTE DBB 5558 w/ full 3in exhaust on flex fuel. The car had amazing power throughout the rpm band. Mpg's were anywhere between 19mpg-29mpg depending on fuel and driving habits. The down fall for me was the heat that came with the kit in the hot AZ desert. Due to an engine failure from pushing the stock block to the limits, the turbo came off and was sold. I am now on a custom wastegated Vortech V3 setup, 2.87 pulley, 2.5in catback and pump gas. The vehicle drive ability on this setup is literally like stock. My max boost setting on 91oct pump piss is 10psi with very little timing in it. The wastegate helps a lot with a meatier tq curve and am able to adjust boost levels via the EBCS on Ecutek. I have zero heat issues, IAT's are good and it pulls nicely all the way to redline. Mpg is around 24-25 right now which isnt bad.

Moral here is I have had way to many setups and never can make up my mind but hopefully it's some insite on what there is. PM me for any further details on each.

aagun · 06-11-2015, 01:55 PM

go turbo

kbogarto · 06-11-2015, 02:15 PM

If you want a reliable DD. don't go forced induction. Otherwise get the best tuner you can find.

BigFatFlip · 06-11-2015, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by kbogarto

If you want a reliable DD. don't go forced induction. Otherwise get the best tuner you can find.

^Sage advice there...

LS1M · 06-11-2015, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by evo4g63

I am now on a custom wastegated Vortech V3 setup, 2.87 pulley, 2.5in catback and pump gas. The vehicle drive ability on this setup is literally like stock. My max boost setting on 91oct pump piss is 10psi with very little timing in it. The wastegate helps a lot with a meatier tq curve and am able to adjust boost levels via the EBCS on Ecutek. I have zero heat issues, IAT's are good and it pulls nicely all the way to redline. Mpg is around 24-25 right now which isnt bad.

I would like more information on how you put an electronic boost controller on a Vortech. What kind of wastegate is it? Is it actually exhausting the unwanted boost or are you using it to bypass the compressor? It also sounds like you're tuning this yourself?

evo4g63 · 06-12-2015, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by LS1M

I would like more information on how you put an electronic boost controller on a Vortech. What kind of wastegate is it? Is it actually exhausting the unwanted boost or are you using it to bypass the compressor? It also sounds like you're tuning this yourself?

PM'd

stevo585 · 06-12-2015, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sw20kosh

Header + FP + E85 done

What I did. Definitely makes the car more peppy and fun. I also cut nearly a second off my quarter mile time.

Boofneenee · 06-13-2015, 12:15 AM

You don't strike me as someone with strong mechanical knowledge. This car is your DD and therefore I am assuming you don't have lots of disposal income either... Like me. Do yourself a favor, keep reading, dreaming and reading. The more you read the more you will steer yourself away from this treacherous roadway tuning a car will take you.

What will you do if one morning you fire up your car and the check engine light comes on? What? Take everything off you car and bring it into the dealer and play that game? What if its totally trashed but you still owe $20k on a car that doesn't work? Just imagine the nightmare. If you want more power sell it and but a wrx or something. Of, make your wife by a 2015 wrx 6 speed and have the best of both worlds. .. Like i did.. Ps I like the 86 more

Andrew025 · 06-13-2015, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by evo4g63

PM'd

I would like to know this information as well.

06-11-2015, 12:36 PM	#17
Dream20b Y u do dis? Join Date: May 2014 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Location: Northbrook, IL Posts: 465 Thanks: 832 Thanked 194 Times in 107 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Why not both? __________________ Dat Hot Lava Doe Clearly you have no clue what you are talking about. Everything you said was completely and utterly the ramblings of a babbling idiot regurgitating garbage from his mouth. Everyone here is now dumber from reading your post. Please die now.

06-11-2015, 12:51 PM	#18
Dustin Twin Screw You Join Date: Nov 2012 Drives: 2013 Supercharged Whiteout FR-S Location: Burleson, Texas Posts: 1,231 Thanks: 464 Thanked 620 Times in 332 Posts Mentioned: 37 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Never been disappointed with my choice of a supercharger. I've had it for over a year with no issues. Daily drivability and reliability is not an issue. __________________ My 86 Differential and Ring & Pinion DIY

06-11-2015, 01:25 PM	#20
evo4g63 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: 2016 Subaru WRX Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 979 Thanks: 235 Thanked 329 Times in 231 Posts Mentioned: 33 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I have had 3 different FI setups on the 86 platform. I first started out as one of the first Innovate kits with a JDL EL header, Greddy axle back on the stock pulley and e85. The car responded very well down low and mid range. The top end struggled a little but wasnt a big deal to me for what I used the car for. Mpg on ethanol for daily driving was down to roughly 18mpg at best not even really going WOT on the car. I moved to a JDL single scroll, EL manifold, PTE DBB 5558 w/ full 3in exhaust on flex fuel. The car had amazing power throughout the rpm band. Mpg's were anywhere between 19mpg-29mpg depending on fuel and driving habits. The down fall for me was the heat that came with the kit in the hot AZ desert. Due to an engine failure from pushing the stock block to the limits, the turbo came off and was sold. I am now on a custom wastegated Vortech V3 setup, 2.87 pulley, 2.5in catback and pump gas. The vehicle drive ability on this setup is literally like stock. My max boost setting on 91oct pump piss is 10psi with very little timing in it. The wastegate helps a lot with a meatier tq curve and am able to adjust boost levels via the EBCS on Ecutek. I have zero heat issues, IAT's are good and it pulls nicely all the way to redline. Mpg is around 24-25 right now which isnt bad. Moral here is I have had way to many setups and never can make up my mind but hopefully it's some insite on what there is. PM me for any further details on each. __________________ -2016 Subaru WRX -2013 Scion FR-S: Wastegated Vortech V3'd, E85 SOLD

06-11-2015, 02:15 PM	#22
kbogarto Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Drives: 2013 BRZ limited WRB Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 120 Thanks: 135 Thanked 43 Times in 31 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	If you want a reliable DD. don't go forced induction. Otherwise get the best tuner you can find. __________________ 92 240sx (sold), 03 350z (sold), 13 BRZ (AVO turbo)

06-13-2015, 12:15 AM	#27
Boofneenee Go-Kart Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2013 Drives: Toyota Scion FRS Location: Yup Posts: 800 Thanks: 576 Thanked 309 Times in 188 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	You don't strike me as someone with strong mechanical knowledge. This car is your DD and therefore I am assuming you don't have lots of disposal income either... Like me. Do yourself a favor, keep reading, dreaming and reading. The more you read the more you will steer yourself away from this treacherous roadway tuning a car will take you. What will you do if one morning you fire up your car and the check engine light comes on? What? Take everything off you car and bring it into the dealer and play that game? What if its totally trashed but you still owe $20k on a car that doesn't work? Just imagine the nightmare. If you want more power sell it and but a wrx or something. Of, make your wife by a 2015 wrx 6 speed and have the best of both worlds. .. Like i did.. Ps I like the 86 more __________________ FRS Current mods: K&N air filter, OFT, OFH, berk high flow cat front pipe, Q300 exhaust, lighter wheels

06-10-2015, 10:58 PM	#15
Poodles Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: 2015 Series.Blue Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 1,781 Thanks: 88 Thanked 781 Times in 481 Posts Mentioned: 16 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	There's always that electric supercharger...

06-11-2015, 01:55 PM	#21
aagun Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Drives: 86 Location: uae Posts: 403 Thanks: 202 Thanked 67 Times in 56 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	go turbo

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