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aslanteye 06-10-2015 05:49 AM

Super vs turbo
 
Alright so I've been lurking on this sub forum for awhile now. I've been doing a ton of reading on what the best forced induction solution would be for my car.

I had thought I was going to settle on a supercharger because it was a simpler setup, would provide boost at lower rpm, and be easier overall for me to deal with since this is my first nice car.

But this past weekend I was talking with a friend about going with a super charger kit and he mentioned that he thought a turbo would be s better choice given that we have such a small engine.

I'd really appreciate your guys' thoughts on the matter. A little more background, this vehicle is my dd so reliability is the most important aspect, I'm honestly looking to get just a bit more torque, not a ton.

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Calum 06-10-2015 05:56 AM

Header.

WHITE 06-10-2015 06:16 AM

It depends on what your looking to get out of the car. I see you say you just want the car to be a daily driver and your not looking for to much hp/tq increase.

If that's all your looking to do then, in my OPINION a supercharger would benefit you for your needs. It keeps your curves more "n/a feeling" wich for a daily driver would be nice.

As far as keeping it reliable, thats going to depend highly on your tune...no matter what forced induction you choose. Its been proven these engines can last quite some time with boost, but get a bad tune and it might not last the drive home from the dyno.


Now, I would also like to say that even though I gave my opinion that a supercharger would benefit your needs, I am in no way saying its a better choice then a turbo. With a small enough turbo you CAN achieve CLOSE to the same "instant boost" as a supercharger, however you'll always have that slight lag due to the need of exhuast gas pressure to spin your turbine as opposed to a pulley thats connected to the crank via a belt.

Helios 06-10-2015 09:39 AM

Ah, the good ol' SC vs turbo debate. I prefer a SC. As stated before, it gives instant power as soon as you step on the gas. While small turbos can spool fast, they will still not give you INSTANT power (but close to it). I'm not a peak HP kinda guy. I like steady, linear power that I can use to weave in and out of traffic and take off from a stop light without having to rev my engine to achieve boost. While the BRZ I bought the wife is not currently FI, if she wants more power after the warranty is up, I will end up installing a SC.
Both turbos and SCs are great. It really does depend on what you want out of the car and how you intend to drive it.

bfrank1972 06-10-2015 11:06 AM

Nitrous

dpgfunk 06-10-2015 11:16 AM

lol...

King Tut 06-10-2015 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aslanteye (Post 2281409)
Alright so I've been lurking on this sub forum for awhile now. I've been doing a ton of reading on what the best forced induction solution would be for my car.

I had thought I was going to settle on a supercharger because it was a simpler setup, would provide boost at lower rpm, and be easier overall for me to deal with since this is my first nice car.

But this past weekend I was talking with a friend about going with a super charger kit and he mentioned that he thought a turbo would be s better choice given that we have such a small engine.

I'd really appreciate your guys' thoughts on the matter. A little more background, this vehicle is my dd so reliability is the most important aspect, I'm honestly looking to get just a bit more torque, not a ton.

Maybe the search function doesn't work on Crapatalk:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...ighlight=turbo
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...ighlight=turbo
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...ighlight=turbo
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...ighlight=turbo
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...ighlight=turbo

There are five threads just in the last year. If you want reliability and a bit more torque, not a ton. Then this is not the section for you. Go get yourself a nice header/exhaust setup and a good tune.

gramicci101 06-10-2015 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aslanteye (Post 2281409)
I'd really appreciate your guys' thoughts on the matter. A little more background, this vehicle is my dd so reliability is the most important aspect, I'm honestly looking to get just a bit more torque, not a ton.

You should stay away from FI then. By putting either a supercharger or a turbocharger on your engine you're completely voiding any portion of the warranty that the dealer can tie to the significant increase in power. So if your engine shits itself on the dyno (this has happened) or just driving down the street (also happened), then you're out a functional car. These cars seem to be reliable below 300 hp, but accidents happen.


The dealer will likely void your warranty for a header and tune as well, so you still need to consider what's more important to you. I stopped at a stage 1 reflash, because I like my warranty. They could still void it because of the reflash, but that's a lot harder to detect than a shiny new header. Once my warranty is up then I'll probably throw a header on there.

The Feds 06-10-2015 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Tut (Post 2281623)
Maybe the search function doesn't work on Crapatalk:.

I know it doesnt work on my Samsung Galaxy Note II :bonk: Which sucks!

sw20kosh 06-10-2015 02:24 PM

Header + FP + E85 done

Sleepless 06-10-2015 05:06 PM

If you want low RPM power, don't get any of the centrifugal super chargers (JRSC, Kraftwerk, Vortech). You'll need something like the Cosworth kit or something similar.

BRZZZZZZZZZZ 06-10-2015 05:29 PM

Do you like the feeling of a nice linear powerband that pulls right to the top? Centrifugal blower. Do you like the feeling of lots of torque in the mid range? Turbo. Do you want a bit of a mix that may fall off up top slightly? Roots style blower.

IMO.

aslanteye 06-10-2015 05:30 PM

Really really appreciate the replies guys.

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cdrazic93 06-10-2015 05:34 PM

Oh gawd an S/C vs turbo thread again?

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