Twins make 2 "Top Ten Best" lists...

[TylerLieberman]

I would be ready with cash in hand for an s16, so long as it didn't suck and wasn't fugly like the 10 "concepts" or "renderings" that have popped up over the years.

I think most of everybody who really wanted the FRS/BRZ bought it the first year, if not, second. Since there are no major changes between each year, a lot of people are just scooping up slightly used ones for a few thousand $$ cheaper than a brand new one.

Great car, but the sales figures don't surprise me one bit. If major changes come, I can see sales going back up.. Depending on what they are, of course.

[Dake]

Nissan's main difficulty is they're only the 9th largest manufacturer in revenue and they make two low-volume sports cars. Neither the GT-R or the Z make them any money (the twins have sold more in a month than they've sold Z cars this year).

The twins are only slow sellers in comparison to Toyota's bread and butter and the company has the volume to absorb the lower numbers.

But anyway - these articles are OLD OLD OLD.

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by Dake

...the twins have sold more in a month than they've sold Z cars this year.

Wait, what? Serious?

[TRD-X]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Wait, what? Serious?

Nissan sales.


http://nissannews.com/en-US/nissan/u...2015-u-s-sales

[extrashaky]

I couldn't take the Jalopnik article seriously when it started with the Mazda 6. I got stuck in a 6 as a rental, and it was one of the most uncomfortable pieces of shit I've ever driven, surpassed only by a Saturn. I couldn't wait to get rid of that thing. I imagine they're not selling well because people cut their test drives short and slap the salesman.

[Tromatic]

Jalopnik has become so full of shit their electrons are brown.

I'd buy one of these:



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Originally Posted by ichitaka05

That's the thing, they can't... Just say they do make new 240z w I6 NA engine (to keep it classic) pushing 220hp w 185tq. You're looking at $26k~$30k MINIMUM. Just say new 240z, they went w 2.4L I4 turbo. It can produce over 300hp easy w current technology... Which will bring the 370Z's sales down. Why buy limited power upgrade 370z when you can do so many upgrade w i4 turbo? Specially 2.4L, so it can produce ridiculous tq!

Again, why do you think new 510 concept died?

Easy solution. Make the 240Z the 370Z replacement.

350Z has been around since 2002 it was replaced 7 years later by the 370Z.

It's almost time for Nissan to make a new model to take it's place. With BMW and Ferrari both opting for smaller capacity turbo charged motors, noone is going to begrudge Nissan for opting for a 4cyl turbo.

Make it less than 1300kg, give it 300HP and design it so it looks somewhere between a 240Z and an S15 and it could very well be the best car Nissan ever makes.

They don't even need to make the engine. Just repurpose one of the F4's out of the Renault Megane range.

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Originally Posted by TylerLieberman

I would be ready with cash in hand for an s16, so long as it didn't suck and wasn't fugly like the 10 "concepts" or "renderings" that have popped up over the years.

I think most of everybody who really wanted the FRS/BRZ bought it the first year, if not, second. Since there are no major changes between each year, a lot of people are just scooping up slightly used ones for a few thousand $$ cheaper than a brand new one.

Great car, but the sales figures don't surprise me one bit. If major changes come, I can see sales going back up.. Depending on what they are, of course.

You mean hyper blue metallic won't make sales go through the roof?

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Originally Posted by Tromatic

Jalopnik has become so full of shit their electrons are brown.

I'd buy one of these:



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I prefer this to that IDx crap! To me a sports car should always have a nice low slung aerodynamic silhouette and not look like a boxy coupe. I feel a box-like design is better suited to boring looking cars like a SUV/Truck/Sedan

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by Wise

Easy solution. Make the 240Z the 370Z replacement.

350Z has been around since 2002 it was replaced 7 years later by the 370Z.

It's almost time for Nissan to make a new model to take it's place. With BMW and Ferrari both opting for smaller capacity turbo charged motors, noone is going to begrudge Nissan for opting for a 4cyl turbo.

Make it less than 1300kg, give it 300HP and design it so it looks somewhere between a 240Z and an S15 and it could very well be the best car Nissan ever makes.

They don't even need to make the engine. Just repurpose one of the F4's out of the Renault Megane range.

Hm.... <1300kg gonna be hard. But I do agree that 370z need to be gone & new model need to come out. Just they cannot make one that save them. Silvia is in the line... but safety, weight, price & other issues get in the way (this is my guess).

[Twin4Life]

IF, I say if, because, our Z forum isnt convinced a next gen 370Z replacement is coming anytime soon. Lot of reasoning behind that I wont get into now. However, IF the next gen Z is made, say by a 2017 release theres a failrly good chance there will be a few models. 2.0 Turbo, 3.0 Twin Turbo (By Mercedes making 450HP) and possibly a Hybrid. Targa top is in play too. The 3.0 Twin Turbo IS CONFIRMED for the next gen Q60. The Z ALWAYS takes parts off the shelf to keep costs down. Like the G37 preceded the 370Z by a year and its viryually the same car, the same will probably be true of the trickle down from the new Q60 to the next Z.

[raven1231]

Originally Posted by Twin4Life

IF, I say if, because, our Z forum isnt convinced a next gen 370Z replacement is coming anytime soon. Lot of reasoning behind that I wont get into now. However, IF the next gen Z is made, say by a 2017 release theres a failrly good chance there will be a few models. 2.0 Turbo, 3.0 Twin Turbo (By Mercedes making 450HP) and possibly a Hybrid. Targa top is in play too. The 3.0 Twin Turbo IS CONFIRMED for the next gen Q60. The Z ALWAYS takes parts off the shelf to keep costs down. Like the G37 preceded the 370Z by a year and its viryually the same car, the same will probably be true of the trickle down from the new Q60 to the next Z.

granted it's all speculation, it would be awesome if it materialized. That is assuming the z doesn't weigh 4000lbs

[Marco_86]

Originally Posted by Twin4Life

IF, I say if, because, our Z forum isnt convinced a next gen 370Z replacement is coming anytime soon. Lot of reasoning behind that I wont get into now. However, IF the next gen Z is made, say by a 2017 release theres a failrly good chance there will be a few models. 2.0 Turbo, 3.0 Twin Turbo (By Mercedes making 450HP) and possibly a Hybrid. Targa top is in play too. The 3.0 Twin Turbo IS CONFIRMED for the next gen Q60. The Z ALWAYS takes parts off the shelf to keep costs down. Like the G37 preceded the 370Z by a year and its viryually the same car, the same will probably be true of the trickle down from the new Q60 to the next Z.

Wait you drive a z now?

[Twin4Life]

Originally Posted by raven1231

granted it's all speculation, it would be awesome if it materialized. That is assuming the z doesn't way 4000lbs

Yes, of course. I agree. Though the base 370Z is (or was at time of release in 2009) 95 pounds LIGHTER than the base 350Z it replaced. Im sure itll gain a few pounds, but id be very pleased with status qua for weight.