pass referee in cali for loud exhaust...

[kch]

Originally Posted by babydriver

Texas has BY FAR the weakest laws concerning vehicle safety

Nah, there are some states (midwest, plains area, and FL) that don't require an inspection at all.

Also, I just noticed that california doesn't seem to require an annual safety inspection, just emissions. That's surprising.

[Jaden]

Originally Posted by kch

I'm fairly certain I've never had to go to a "referee" to have my mods inspected. Pretty sure Texas cops won't pop my hood and look to see what I've done. Also pretty sure I can use whatever FI kit I want without having to worry about CARB certification. Also fairly certain my car can't be impounded for having "unapproved" mods.

Edit: oh yeah, no random roadside smog checks, either.

Just like consenting to a vehicle search. I won't ever do it. If they arrest me I will sue them for wrongful imprisonment and I will take it all the way to the supreme court. That's not a joke. I take my liberty seriously.

I will never submit to an illegal search and seizure...

Jaden

[8R6]

Originally Posted by Jaden

Well so I had my appt today with the carb ref to get my ticket for too loud exhaust covered.

So I get there and since it's raining I have to wait for the rain to let up before they can do it.

While we're waiting the ref asks me if it's a stock exhaust. I said no, I have a cat back. So he pops the hood and verifies that's all I have, then looks at the mufflers and says he can't pass it, cause it has bolts holding in the baffles.

So since they're removable, he can't test it. So I ask if he can test it with the baffles removed and he says yes.

So to make a not so long story a bit shorter, it passed (barely) with the baffles removed and now I have my cert that I can show a cop if they pull me over again.

The ref even commented in the comments section on the certification that the test passed with the baffles removed.

So I'm stoked about that.

Jaden

did the ref tell you what the decible ratings ended up at for your exhaust? and how much was it for the inspection test, is it still around $110?

[Jaden]

Originally Posted by 8R6

did the ref tell you what the decible ratings ended up at for your exhaust? and how much was it for the inspection test, is it still around $110?

It's aactually on the certificate they give you. They gave me a certificate for my records and put a sticker showing it passed on the back of the ticket.

Mine was 95.0 on one the exhaust ports and 94.8 on the other without the baffles...

Jaden

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by Jaden

The referee told me that an officer can still write a citation for it even if I show him the paper, and I would have to get it refereed again or pay the fine...

So yes, Comuufornia still sucks balls.

Yes, but honestly that'll be between you and the officer. Show reasonable and verified documentation that you fixed your problem and more often than not they will let you pass.

Again, going with my insurance example earlier: if the officer wants to write a ticket based on reasonable suspicion, they have every right to as they are enforcing the law. But you can simply show up in court the next day and provide proof to have it written off.

-alex

[Jaden]

Originally Posted by mav1178

Yes, but honestly that'll be between you and the officer. Show reasonable and verified documentation that you fixed your problem and more often than not they will let you pass.

Again, going with my insurance example earlier: if the officer wants to write a ticket based on reasonable suspicion, they have every right to as they are enforcing the law. But you can simply show up in court the next day and provide proof to have it written off.

-alex

I don't expect any officer to write me up for it once I show them the certificate.

It really wasn't that loud unless you're revving to redline and there's NO WAY that the one who wrote me up initially had reasonable suspicion just based on what he witnessed.

HE was just being a ****.

Jaden

[cycleboy]

Originally Posted by MokSpeed

First thing I did after driving off the dealership lot was slap on a cat back. I guess I won't take my living conditions in Texas for granted.

Cat backs are legal in Ca. also and plenty of people have them. Removing working cats is against federal law.

Originally Posted by kch

Also, I just noticed that california doesn't seem to require an annual safety inspection, just emissions. That's surprising.

We have no annual inspection and smog is every other year. For vehicles made after a certain year (I don't recall which) it doesn't even get smogged for the first 5 or maybe 6 years. I usually go to AAA the last week the reg is valid, pay my fee, get the sticker, and put it on the car.

It's really not as terrible as people make it out to be and LA air no longer has to be chewed first.

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by Jaden

I don't expect any officer to write me up for it once I show them the certificate.

You are saying what I'm saying:

Originally Posted by Jaden

HE was just being a ****.

Some are just like that, power-tripping. Can be anywhere in this country, but my point still stands:

Having the exhaust sound tested is better than having no testing done at all. Helps your argument out a lot.

-alex

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by cycleboy

For vehicles made after a certain year (I don't recall which) it doesn't even get smogged for the first 5 or maybe 6 years.

All new cars are exempt from smog for the first two cycles (2/4 years) after initial sale date.

The only exception to this is if you bought a car from out of state. CA law requires you to smog it when you first bring it in, even if it was within the 6-year exemption period. This is essentially an outdated vehicle code that is really no longer applicable, but it is not fixed because no one really cares about it.

-alex

[MokSpeed]

Originally Posted by mav1178

But it's okay, easier to hate on California than understand what goes on in your own state.

-alex

The point people are trying to make is that you will get hassled a lot more in California for vehicle mods.


I've never been questioned regarding the legality of any vehicle mods on any of my cars. I don't think many can say that on the west coast.

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by MokSpeed

The point people are trying to make is that you will get hassled a lot more in California for vehicle mods.

I have had 1 ref ticket in my entire 20+ year driving/modding history.
I got it only because my exhaust at the time was missing the silencer, which I lost. Without the silencer I would've given myself a ticket, it was annoyingly loud.

I have no issues with driving a modded car in California as I took time to understand how the law works and what my mods impact my rights.

-alex

[phobos512]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

LA

Oh look, there's still smog in LA...

2008: https://www.flickr.com/photos/moondoggie71/2603458118

2011: https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8032/8...c9ff3a07_b.jpg

I'm sure I could find ever more recent ones, but why? Your assertion that there's no smog now with that one silly comparison picture that comes up as nearly the first image with a Google search of "California smog" is at best farcical.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by phobos512

Oh look, there's still smog in LA...

2008: https://www.flickr.com/photos/moondoggie71/2603458118

2011: https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8032/8...c9ff3a07_b.jpg

I'm sure I could find ever more recent ones, but why? Your assertion that there's no smog now with that one silly comparison picture that comes up as nearly the first image with a Google search of "California smog" is at best farcical.

Did I say there was none at all? One of the most concentrated car areas in the world, of course there still is smog.
How bad would it be now without the regulations though?

[Cal3000]

I love around the same area as the OP :/
I have a full header back exhaust with a Vortech SC on E85 with tomei headers and an N1 with a strong scent of alcohol from the exhaust.
What's the quietest exhaust on the market? Lol