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Old 09-15-2014, 08:27 PM   #15
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Gt3 rules are pretty lame too with the whole "Balance of performance"
BOP or some similar system is the only way you can have competitive multi marque racing. Every successful professional non-spec racing series uses some rules set to balance performance between manufacturers. Without it one make of car dominates and everyone switches to it while spectators and manufacturers leave the series in droves. More or less equalizing the car puts some of the focus on driver ability. It also makes for a good show. That keeps people interested which makes for happy sponsors and manufacturers.

Just consider it a necessary evil and enjoy the show where a Bentley can compete with a Porsche 911 GT3R which can compete with a Ferrari 458 which can compete with a McLaren 12C which can compete with BMWZ4 which can compete with a Corvette C7 etc. etc.
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BOP or some similar system is the only way you can have competitive multi marque racing. Every successful professional non-spec racing series uses some rules set to balance performance between manufacturers. Without it one make of car dominates and everyone switches to it while spectators and manufacturers leave the series in droves. More or less equalizing the car puts some of the focus on driver ability. It also makes for a good show. That keeps people interested which makes for happy sponsors and manufacturers.

Just consider it a necessary evil and enjoy the show where a Bentley can compete with a Porsche 911 GT3R which can compete with a Ferrari 458 which can compete with a McLaren 12C which can compete with BMWZ4 which can compete with a Corvette C7 etc. etc.


NASCAR, the racing of upside down bathtubs.
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Old 09-15-2014, 08:30 PM   #17
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BoP, and the threat of BoP adjustments, helps fine tune the art of sandbagging Even though IMSA made a rule against sandbagging, lol.
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BOP or some similar system is the only way you can have competitive multi marque racing. Every successful professional non-spec racing series uses some rules set to balance performance between manufacturers. Without it one make of car dominates and everyone switches to it while spectators and manufacturers leave the series in droves. More or less equalizing the car puts some of the focus on driver ability. It also makes for a good show. That keeps people interested which makes for happy sponsors and manufacturers.

Just consider it a necessary evil and enjoy the show where a Bentley can compete with a Porsche 911 GT3R which can compete with a Ferrari 458 which can compete with a McLaren 12C which can compete with BMWZ4 which can compete with a Corvette C7 etc. etc.
.... this BOP is exactly why I would lose interest. If everyone switched to one type of vehicle because that vehicle was the dominant make then spectators would leave. That is exactly what they are doing. "You can have any body you want, but make sure it has this carbon fiber tub." That means the only variance would be aero. And then there would be a dominant aero that if you want to win you would have to use. And you would have all the cars looking the same with the same power train.... NASCAR.

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.... this BOP is exactly why I would lose interest. If everyone switched to one type of vehicle because that vehicle was the dominant make then spectators would leave. That is exactly what they are doing. "You can have any body you want, but make sure it has this carbon fiber tub." That means the only variance would be aero. And then there would be a dominant aero that if you want to win you would have to use. And you would have all the cars looking the same with the same power train.... NASCAR.

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I was not talking about Super GT. I was addressing the comment about GT3 which uses BOP to balance marques that do not use silhouette racing. Yes, DTM and the new Super GT are more like the old NASCAR who has moved at least a little bit away from what you describe by burying the COT concept and gone back to using some original panels. All three of those series are still close to SPEC racing.

GT3 uses BOP to avoid spec racing.
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The common tub concept still leave engine, suspension, and aero open, but BoP will even out the racing.

NASCAR gen6 still doesn't use OEM panels, but they are closer to OEM looking, but they are stamped and carry OEM part numbers.
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Yes, thank you, I know this because I own a BRZ and have opened the hood on it many times. I've also spent time in Tokyo at STi HQ looking over the actual GT300 BRZ and its engine. I guess humor doesn't translate well to some people on the internet... *shakes head*

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Your BRZ doesn't look like that under the hood either. The only real difference is the nose and that, like everything else, can be changed. This is why we have GT-86's in the U.S., someone rebadged their twin.


Almost as bad as the original "Plymouth Laser, Eagle Talon, Mitsubishi Eclipse", same car with minor differences. for TROLLS.


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