Manuel vs automatic transmission?

[shiumai]

Originally Posted by J_kennington

With the exception of a "quick shifter".

cuz autos don't need 'em since they already shift quick.

[wheelhaus]

Originally Posted by Churg

Plus, if you are looking to mod your car, you have many more options with a manual than an auto.

Originally Posted by J_kennington

Such as? Everything that can be done to a manual, can also be done to an auto. With the exception of a "quick shifter".

It's a short list, and a little deceiving to say it as such a matter of fact, but the manual does have more options. Some turbo kits (and possibly other engine/exhaust related mods) have had issues and delays with the auto compatibility. I'm not sure if it's purely physical fitment, or if it's ECU/tuning related. Chassis and other stuff is identical, you're correct there.

[J_kennington]

Originally Posted by wheelhaus

It's a short list, and a little deceiving to say it as such a matter of fact, but the manual does have more options. Some turbo kits (and possibly other engine/exhaust related mods) have had issues and delays with the auto compatibility. I'm not sure if it's purely physical fitment, or if it's ECU/tuning related. Chassis and other stuff is identical, you're correct there.

Only thing I've heard of was nameless op/fp combo. And they released one for autos. Haven't heard anything about FI kits not fitting. Granted the tune should be different to utilize the lower rpms the autos use that the manual does not.(750-1500). But, as I said. To each his own and at the end of the day, drive what YOU want to drive.

[Mobius357]

Both transmissions are very good. The manual has an excellent feel than can be further improved at the cost of a little NVH if you want the "engagement" The auto is very sharp for a "slushbox" and shifts quite fast. Sport mode sharpens things up a bit more and hold rpm higher. Test drive both, buy what you like the most, and ignore the armchair racers.

[Skeneypoo]

There is a reason why Lamborghini, Ferrari, and countless other performance automakers do not make manual cars anymore.

Autotransmissions shift faster than people. Enough said.

Get a manual if you care about people talking shit. If you're looking for the fastest lap times on a track, go auto.

[Skeneypoo]

But it's always good to know how to drive stick because it is much more fun. But which is better?
Fun or Performance?
Traffic or highways?
Track or drift?

[Sithspawn]

I had a manual FR-S and have driven manuals for 15 years. When it came time to lemon out the old one, I test drove the auto for S's and G's and was blown away by how it performed. I have never driven an auto like this before and I love it. I drive with the paddles so I still have full control, but the benefit is flawless shifts every time with perfectly rev matched downshifts without ever having to fight the crappy synchros of the manual. It's great around town and in the twisties.

Keep in mind that before testing out the auto I was of the opinion that autos are for wuss's that can't drive and that this car should have only come in a manual. I will admit that my old opinion was incorrect...this auto box is a dream to drive.

[totopo]

Originally Posted by Skeneypoo

There is a reason why Lamborghini, Ferrari, and countless other performance automakers do not make manual cars anymore.

Autotransmissions shift faster than people. Enough said.

Get a manual if you care about people talking shit. If you're looking for the fastest lap times on a track, go auto.

Torque converter auto != semi-automatic transmission != dual clutch transmission.

And I dunno, for pure track times, a straight cut sequential dog box would probably fare pretty well against semi-autos

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFU9aUB0scA"]JGTC NSX Tsukuba lap record - YouTube[/ame]

[Euro7R]

Man, sick and tired of these MT or AT threads. Do people not know how to type in the search in regards to previous threads................

[CamryDS]

From ALL the threads about manual and AUTO here are the ONLY FACTS you need:
1 - Auto version of this car has less WHP than the MANUAL, that's been dyno proven (search it)
2 - There is no better of the two.... You drive what you feel is right for you.
3 - YOU drive what you want to drive, who cares what the next person thinks is better. (redundant kind of to the 2nd point)

Anyway, pick what you want to drive. Plenty of threads to look through for opinions.

[whataboutbob]

The auto *can* be fast. And who is "Manuel"? :P

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNEp0O91kSM"]El Toro Pro Solo 4.12.2014 - SCCA SM Scion FR-S - YouTube[/ame]
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAy0wdKugEg"]Robert Stangarone - FR-S Staging and Launch - YouTube[/ame]

[boredom.is.me]

Originally Posted by Skeneypoo

There is a reason why Lamborghini, Ferrari, and countless other performance automakers do not make manual cars anymore.

Autotransmissions shift faster than people. Enough said.

Get a manual if you care about people talking shit. If you're looking for the fastest lap times on a track, go auto.

Come back when you know what you're talking about. Why don't you go do some basic research before throwing misleading info around.

Those triple digit dollar cars use double clutch transmissions. You can't shift nearly as fast as the tech that comes with those cars. Good luck finding that on a sub $30K car. Manual is king for performance at realistic price ranges, with the exception of the VW GTI's.

[Churg]

Originally Posted by J_kennington

Such as? Everything that can be done to a manual, can also be done to an auto. With the exception of a "quick shifter".

Back when I purchased mine at the beginning of the year, there were maybe 3 or 4 FI kits for the Auto. There was also only a handful of front pipes you could get for the autos as well. I'm sure this has gotten better, this is just the last time I've researched the autos. You'll also have less tuning options.

Again, this is all just from the last time I had my auto and was looking for parts for it.

[continuecrushing]

not to threadjack, but what are the differences between the frs and brz?

Daily driving? Racing? Getting groceries?

And which is the best exhaust?