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Old 04-03-2014, 03:58 PM   #15
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Uhmmm I hammered the 100 dollar piece of crap. Not sure why you said that, being as I didn't actually hammer the "new car" itself.
Got me with that, I read that bit wrong. Regardless buying cheap parts isn't worth doing the job twice.
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A pipe is a pipe right? The 100 dollar DC Sports overpipe review.

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Got me with that, I read that bit wrong. Regardless buying cheap parts isn't worth doing the job twice.

But now there's an easy to follow, easy to understand thread that will hopefully deter inquisitive forum members from buying a cheap crappy over pipe!


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Can lead a horse to water.... or something like that! haha

Same people that will buy it will be the same ones that don't know what a search button is. :P
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Old 04-03-2014, 04:02 PM   #18
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I'd have to say this stuff goes both ways. Pipe is pipe, up to a point. Yes buying more expensive pieces does generally result in higher quality, but not always. Some companies take conspicuous consumption to the extreme and use their brand name to mark things up beyond what is justified by the quality over something less expensive.

For instance, I bought a J2 front pipe for like $110 shipped back when they were the only >2.5" option available. It fit like a glove and is holding up just as good as any other piece I have (Motiv and Perrin). You can't always judge based on price alone. That's why we have guys review things on the forums .
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Those welds look to be a line of tacks more then a consistent bead. Its not the best picture but when a weld looks like a bunch of fish eyes that someone going along, zap, zap, zap. It works but often thins out the metal creating a weak point. This is a cheap and easy version of fusion welding.

This weld has one "fish eye" where the weld ended after going around. Also notice how this weld bead does not have that under cut concave face to it, thats because filler was added rather then just letting the two parts melt together.

I personally hate the "pipe is a pipe" argument its just a lack of information and people trying to justify buying junk.
Coming from a QC-7 GTAW cert background, it looks like you're right about them not using filler metal. It looks like they just did a series of pulses, not tacks. Lots of undercutting is a bad sign.

This kind of crap makes me wish I had a mandrel bender and CNC mill to make my own exhaust parts.
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Coming from a QC-7 GTAW cert background, it looks like you're right about them not using filler metal. It looks like they just did a series of pulses, not tacks. Lots of undercutting is a bad sign.

This kind of crap makes me wish I had a mandrel bender and CNC mill to make my own exhaust parts.
I have neither of those machines and I make all my own parts, that weld picture I posted is my front pipe.
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I have neither of those machines and I make all my own parts, that weld picture I posted is my front pipe.
It's good to see fellow fabricators on the site. Imagine what kind of stuff you could rip out with a mandrel bender...

I go a tad overboard on projects and would probably want to mass produce once I got something jigged and tested on AP's dyno. I'd LOVE to make full exhaust with cats and resonators to get a deep bassy zero rasp exhaust note like my STI.

We've got a full pneumatic lift, plasma cutter, new Multimatic 200, and just about every other tool under the sun. When I priced out the pipe, cats, resonators, and tips on Summit, I might as well just pay for a full Nameless 3". I'd have to buy in serious bulk to make a reasonable profit on exhaust parts. A mandrel bender would make it a cakewalk. The CNC would let me do perfect flanges I wouldn't be embarrassed to sell.
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This is disappointing. i just got my dc overpipe in the mail today. it looks just like yours. im sure i will have the same issues as you. i might dent it with a hammer to clear. how much do u need to dent the pipe?

Im thinking i might have an exhaust shop cut out a half inch from the downpipe side so it wont push everything back. i dont have the money for a good 200 dollar op right now so im stuck with this for a few months. hopefully cutting out a bit and denting it will make it work.. whats funny is i bought this cause i had an exhaust leak with stock op and now i might still have the problem. its already a Frankenstein pipe so cutting it dont bother me. i just hope i can make it work. definately not worth the problems for saving 100 bucks.
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This is disappointing. i just got my dc overpipe in the mail today. it looks just like yours. im sure i will have the same issues as you. i might dent it with a hammer to clear. how much do u need to dent the pipe?

Im thinking i might have an exhaust shop cut out a half inch from the downpipe side so it wont push everything back. i dont have the money for a good 200 dollar op right now so im stuck with this for a few months. hopefully cutting out a bit and denting it will make it work.. whats funny is i bought this cause i had an exhaust leak with stock op and now i might still have the problem. its already a Frankenstein pipe so cutting it dont bother me. i just hope i can make it work. definately not worth the problems for saving 100 bucks.
Just return it.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Scion-FRS-Su...eb52b&vxp=mtrv

This is a better deal. Over pipe and front pipe for 170$ shipped. It fits right too. I've had it on for 2k miles and 2 track days so far with no issues.

I got it because it's cheap and local but most likely upgrading to 3" soon since I have turbo.
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2 late to return. id have to pay restocking fee and shipping
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2 late to return. id have to pay restocking fee and shipping

I mean, it's still installed in my car, the leak seems to be sealed but it's a pain in the ass to install it. I put a good sized dent on the top "hump" portion. I drove all day but I'm smelling exhaust fumes in the cabin. I can't wait to uninstall that crap.


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Plus it made the tips of my Q300 crooked a bit.. Lol


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