More power desires may be doomed - Page 2 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

SirBrass · 02-28-2014, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mav1178

We should have a section of the website dedicated to these threads.

Title the section "A place where internet rumors go die..."

-alex

Good idea! Seriously.

JS + BRZ · 02-28-2014, 03:24 PM

I don't fking care if Toyota or Subaru cuts the sale on 86. I have mine already.

There are shitload of parts to make things go fast.

But the fact is that I don't really feel the urge to make my car faster. All I just want is a set of lightweight wheels and sticky tires.

It's funny to say this because I'm coming from a modified Mazdaspeed3. I always wanted to go faster in that car, but not at all with my BRZ for some reason.

Maybe if I didn't go to the track with my BRZ, I would have wanted more parts. But then, I realized I'm a noob driver who can't even properly handle 200hp.

SirBrass · 02-28-2014, 03:41 PM

I do care if they cut sales. What if someone hits me on the freeway and balls up my car in about 7 years? I'd have to buy used (always risky) if they've already stopped production, or get a different car then.

I hope to still be able to buy a BRZ or FR-S new in 10 years if I have to.

Ganthrithor · 02-28-2014, 03:55 PM

These articles are funny. Yeah, the car's a bit underpowered, but I don't see why that's dissuading people from buying it. Of all the potential complaints to have about our cars, power seems like the silliest one to me. It's not like the car is retard-slow from the factory, and if you want more power it's not too difficult to go FI.

Personally I'm finding the engine sound to be the biggest letdown, mostly because I want it to sound like a six and there's no way to do it without an engine swap. Welp. Now that's expensive and impractical...

DarkSunrise · 02-28-2014, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SirBrass

1) smoothly downshift 1-2 gears (depending on current speed, current tach, and desired accel... basically your target tach when the clutch re-engages is to be ABOVE the torque dip)
2) smoothly apply throttle (all the way to WOT if needed, and if you were that slow to clue in that you were getting passed by an econobox)
3) extend vision ahead and check for traffic clearance
4) swiftly pass offending grocery getter with delusions of grandeur
5) profit

Should be stickied. You can even downshift 6th to 3rd on the highway in some cases. Basically if you're not running the engine from 5000-7400 rpm, the engine has plenty more to give. Just learn to downshift.

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Originally Posted by Ganthrithor

Personally I'm finding the engine sound to be the biggest letdown, mostly because I want it to sound like a six and there's no way to do it without an engine swap. Welp. Now that's expensive and impractical...

Haha I'm in the same boat, even with a CBE. It's made worse because I've also got a 350z with an amazing sounding V6. I'm wondering if a UEL header like OFH would be enough sound-wise to keep me happy.

husker741 · 02-28-2014, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SirBrass

I think he's one of the few who were dissatisfied.

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Originally Posted by strat61caster

90% sure he's an armchair quarterback, contemplating selling his Mitsu but was dissatisfied with the test drive. It's a testament to how entertaining our forums are that he's still here, talking down the Toyobaru every chance he gets.

Who is it you guys were referencing?

SirBrass · 02-28-2014, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by husker741

Who is it you guys were referencing?

Our resident major malcontent

husker741 · 02-28-2014, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SirBrass

Our resident major malcontent

Holy hell.. I'm supposed to know who that is?

I'm guessing Whitigr. I don't read his posts often so I wouldn't know. I just know he doesn't drive a twin but he tries to offer everyone his opinion of it.

strat61caster · 02-28-2014, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by husker741

Holy hell.. I'm supposed to know who that is?

Whitigir

husker741 · 02-28-2014, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster

Whitigir

Ok that's what I thought. You caught me before my edit. All he does is brag about his ZOMG 450 HP CAR!!! Why the hell is he even here?

krayzie · 02-28-2014, 04:39 PM

That Derek Kreindler wrote a shorter version of that bs article on TTAC. I'm so tired of these "lack of power" articles, why these dumb auto journalists never made a big deal out of the "lack of power" with the Miata? BTW Derek Kreindler drives a Miata and he'll never do a bs article on his beloved car.

SirBrass · 02-28-2014, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by husker741

Holy hell.. I'm supposed to know who that is?

I'm guessing Whitigr. I don't read his posts often so I wouldn't know. I just know he doesn't drive a twin but he tries to offer everyone his opinion of it.

You have deduced correctly, which means you did indeed know who we were talking about

.

Namuna · 02-28-2014, 04:58 PM

The "problem" was Toyota putting this vehicle under the Scion brand. 1/2 the people I tell that my car is a "Scion" they don't know what it is..."Huh?...It's a sky-on? skee-on?" Then I tell them it's actually a subsidiary of Toyota and THEN the light goes on. Then some other comments are about how they like my FR-S better than some of those other "weird looking boxy Scion cars".

So, either they've never heard of Scion, or they associate it in the same family as "weird looking" cars.

Should've just released it as the Toyota FT86 here in the States and I bet it would've broke the projected sales targets just like Subaru did.

Dark · 02-28-2014, 04:59 PM

It's a tuner car. If you want more power, tune the damn car. FA Engine is a Boxer jewel, it has a lot of potential.

02-28-2014, 04:58 PM	#27
Namuna Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Location: NY/NJ Posts: 273 Thanks: 182 Thanked 173 Times in 89 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The "problem" was Toyota putting this vehicle under the Scion brand. 1/2 the people I tell that my car is a "Scion" they don't know what it is..."Huh?...It's a sky-on? skee-on?" Then I tell them it's actually a subsidiary of Toyota and THEN the light goes on. Then some other comments are about how they like my FR-S better than some of those other "weird looking boxy Scion cars". So, either they've never heard of Scion, or they associate it in the same family as "weird looking" cars. Should've just released it as the Toyota FT86 here in the States and I bet it would've broke the projected sales targets just like Subaru did. __________________ --- --- Namunas' FR-S Journal

02-28-2014, 04:59 PM	#28
Dark Elite Padawan Join Date: Mar 2010 Drives: '15 WRX, 15 GLA250, and 2 feet Location: Shoreline, WA Posts: 3,498 Thanks: 197 Thanked 250 Times in 159 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It's a tuner car. If you want more power, tune the damn car. FA Engine is a Boxer jewel, it has a lot of potential. __________________ Dark

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