Best habit to shift gears on MT and fuel economy

[ntron1]

Originally Posted by dssence

When you coast you mean when you're letting the car roll without pressing the gas pedal and in neutral ? Sorry

If you go to neutral, the fuel economy is better because there is less drag from the transmission.

[its_the_biz]

its not your driving habits, its a manufacture defect. take your vehicle in for refund/exchange.

[jwlee7ucla]

Originally Posted by ntron1

If you go to neutral, the fuel economy is better because there is less drag from the transmission.

i've tried both, i only get 27mpg when I do neutral

[dssence]

Originally Posted by its_the_biz

its not your driving habits, its a manufacture defect. take your vehicle in for refund/exchange.

I'm being serious here.. I wanted to discard basically it was a manufacturing defect.

[SirBrass]

Originally Posted by dssence

I'm being serious here.. I wanted to discard basically it was a manufacturing defect.

For the kind of fuel economy you're talking about, it doesn't sound normal unless you're at or close to WOT for all of those 89 km (even then that doesn't sound right... I took a long, fast cruise where I went through half a tank in 144 miles & I was at high revs & over 100mph for much of it).

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[BadMoon]

If I wanted fuel economy I would have bought a Prius.

[ericmpena]

Originally Posted by dssence

Hi well like the post says.. I own a toyota 86 FT manual, and I'd like to know what 's the best way to shift gears and have a nice fuel economy rate about 25mpg like most ppl state.
I don't know if my driving habits are bad or whats up , but I've taken my car from the dealer with the tank filled up have done like 89km and have half a tank left.
So maybe I'm shifting gears badly at bad rpms. A friend of mine told me to keep rpms below 3000rpm not to consume excesive fuel.
but what would be the best manual shifting practice. Start car 1st gear, then 2nd gear those gears are the most fuel demanding ones.. then 3rd .. move to 4th .. Then should I stay driving the car in 5th and 6th gear?

Do this with Manual Transmission:

Without the clutch pressed in, just press the START button to get the car in ACC mode, or turn your key to the ACC Mode.

Press ODO/TRIP to cycle to "G – ON" on display.

Press and hold to cycle ON/OFF.

With this setting ON, while driving you will see which gear your car is in located in the Odometer display.

***IT WILL ALSO show you a small UP ARROW to indicate when to shift for max fuel economy.***

This is different from your REV Indicator. The small fuel economy arrow will be located in Odometer area. Once you hit the best RPMs to shift for max fuel economy a small up arrow will pop up showing you that now is the best time to shift up for max fuel.

Hope that is what you're looking for!

FYI: There is another setting there called Needle or N...I can't remember exactly. Most people don't know what this does...so I'll tell you. With Needle turned ON, when you start the car the tach needle will roll up to the highest RPM setting you have your REV Indicator set to...and then back down to 0. With Needle turned OFF, when you start your car the tach needle will not move. BORING! Turn it ON so you can see that Tach needle go up and back down because race car!

[dssence]

Originally Posted by SirBrass

For the kind of fuel economy you're talking about, it doesn't sound normal unless you're at or close to WOT for all of those 89 km (even then that doesn't sound right... I took a long, fast cruise where I went through half a tank in 144 miles & I was at high revs & over 100mph for much of it).

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Kay so what would you do in my case. I still haven't emptied the tank filled my by dealer. I'm in half a tank. Should I empty it and do a full recharge shell's vpower? see how it goes.
should I take it to the dealer to check the ECU .. ?

[Kimsey47]

Originally Posted by BadMoon

If I wanted fuel economy I would have bought a Prius.

Almost there... Already have the tires!

[dssence]

Do this with Manual Transmission:

Without the clutch pressed in, just press the START button to get the car in ACC mode, or turn your key to the ACC Mode.

Press ODO/TRIP to cycle to "G – ON" on display.

Press and hold to cycle ON/OFF.

With this setting ON, while driving you will see which gear your car is in located in the Odometer display.

***IT WILL ALSO show you a small UP ARROW to indicate when to shift for max fuel economy.***

This is different from your REV Indicator. The small fuel economy arrow will be located in Odometer area. Once you hit the best RPMs to shift for max fuel economy a small up arrow will pop up showing you that now is the best time to shift up for max fuel.

Hope that is what you're looking for!

thanks Eric I did enable G-on didn't have it enabled before.. I know the arrow kicks up when it's in a high rpm range.. and I don't know if that's the optimum point for conservative fuel economy..

[ericmpena]

Originally Posted by dssence

thanks Eric I did enable G-on didn't have it enabled before.. I know the arrow kicks up when it's in a high rpm range.. and I don't know if that's the optimum point for conservative fuel economy..

It depends on what gear your in, but I would trust it anyways. Also, I wouldn't use the instantaneous MPG reader. Use the AVG MPG. It updates less often but is much more realistic. With regular driving you should get about 320 miles on a full tank, with about 28mpg.

Don't forget, it probably has a smaller gas tank than your previous car, so while it may seem like you're burning through gas faster...the tank is rather small so you will need to stop for gas more often.

[dssence]

Originally Posted by ericmpena

It depends on what gear your in, but I would trust it anyways. Also, I wouldn't use the instantaneous MPG reader. Use the AVG MPG. It updates less often but is much more realistic. With regular driving you should get about 320 miles on a full tank, with about 28mpg.

Don't forget, it probably has a smaller gas tank than your previous car, so while it may seem like you're burning through gas faster...the tank is rather small so you will need to stop for gas more often.

Yah I know but , only 89km with half a tank since I took it out from the dealer which had the tank filled up it's nothing. I don't get it. I'm worried that car has manufacture fault. Besides stupid Toyota in my country says they don't publish the fuel average on city highway here.
What the heck ..

[ericmpena]

Originally Posted by dssence

Yah I know but , only 89km with half a tank since I took it out from the dealer which had the tank filled up it's nothing. I don't get it. I'm worried that car has manufacture fault. Besides stupid Toyota in my country says they don't publish the fuel average on city highway here.
What the heck ..

I see. My best advise then would be to wait maybe 1000 miles and see if the issue persists through another 2 or 3 tanks. Maybe everything will be fine and you won't need to deal with the dealership. Believe me, the last thing you want is the dealership poking around at your car. They tend to make things worse when they start touching things.

[dssence]

Originally Posted by ericmpena

I see. My best advise then would be to wait maybe 1000 miles and see if the issue persists through another 2 or 3 tanks. Maybe everything will be fine and you won't need to deal with the dealership. Believe me, the last thing you want is the dealership poking around at your car. They tend to make things worse when they start touching things.

I know