Do they use the same paint? FR-S and BRZ?

[jmaryt]

Originally Posted by CircuitJerk

Temperature and humidity often play a role in how the clear coat dries. Even though the plant is supposed to be a controlled environment, a slight change in the mix (thinner/reducer), a failure of an air handler or environmental control and you end up with a drying process that is little to be desired.
There are other factors such as film thickness, pressures of the fluid and air mixture at the nozzle, wait time before recoating, etc.
A slight orange peel is considered to be commercially or industrially acceptable.

Originally Posted by Kwisak

When I had asked about the orange peel, with my wrx which had the same. They told me it was intentional as the orange peel paint is more scratch resistant. Not saying this is the truth, just what I was told.

really? wow! sounds like a "shit storm" to me!..just sayin'

[GreySaber]

Gents, I don't believe we are talking about the same thing. I googled orange peel and auto paint, and that physical texture is not what I'm talking about on the dark grey scion.

Here is an image, if it uploads correctly, to show what I mean. What I'm talking about, in art school terms, is that it looks like the car was peppered and then clearcoated. It's even, and has all these flecks in it, and that is what I mean by 'textured appearance.' Not a physical texture in the paint.

[GreySaber]

Sorry the image is upside down and um.... huge.

EDIT: Partly fixed it. Cut it down and rotated it. Need to reinstall photoshop so that's easier to do. The above image should show what I mean by 'textured.' Does anyone know if the dark grey BRZ looks like that?

[Guff]

That is called a Metallic Flake. It is often used in modern metallic paints to add depth and make it a generally more interesting color.

I know WRB, DGM, and CBS have tons of flake, which IMO looks great when cleaned and in the right light...

[sbxjap]

Ooooh.... The metallic flake. It is mixed Into the paint. This should be pretty much uniform in all the cars unless more/less was added into the mix...

Pearl and metallic paints are slightly different. Both use flakes, but different types... Metallic is more metal shiny looking while the pearl uses mica to give that sheen of a pearl. also, pearl paints sometimes look different depending on angle....l

[CircuitJerk]

Ohh! Okay, that's a wet ground Mica, not metallic flake I believe.
The Mica refracts light rather than reflect it for the most part. That's why you get that prismatic effect. This can create different shades from different angles.
That can also be referred to as 'flop' since it can produce a different look based on the angle you view it, and the light direction.
That is also why this type of paint is a challenge to match, especially in lighter colors.
Look at it with a magnifier, and it looks like a mountain range.

[CircuitJerk]

Originally Posted by jmaryt

really? at what price point?..may i ask?
at any price point?..seems odd!..just sayin'

LOL, not sure I understand the question. Unless that's a bit of sarcasm.
If the latter, its free of charge. :P

[n2oinferno]

Originally Posted by CircuitJerk

Ohh! Okay, that's a wet ground Mica, not metallic flake I believe.
The Mica refracts light rather than reflect it for the most part. That's why you get that prismatic effect. This can create different shades from different angles.
That can also be referred to as 'flop' since it can produce a different look based on the angle you view it, and the light direction.
That is also why this type of paint is a challenge to match, especially in lighter colors.
Look at it with a magnifier, and it looks like a mountain range.

Wouldn't they call it Mica then, instead of Dark Gray Metallic? Just curious, since I've seen plenty of manufacturers use ___ ___ Mica in the past.

FYI OP, all of the colors have this "texture" or flake to them with the exception of red, which is a plain gloss.

Originally Posted by jmaryt

really? wow! sounds like a "shit storm" to me!..just sayin'

Sounds like "Business as usual" to me. I can't go to any dealerships nearby and find a orange-peel free finish.

[jshadeck]

Even wrb?

Fyi the whiteout is a pearl, so it would vary from the other colors "flake" a bit as well

[jshadeck]

Originally Posted by CircuitJerk

LOL, not sure I understand the question. Unless that's a bit of sarcasm.
If the latter, its free of charge. :P

I think he means at what price point (msrp) does orange peel become unacceptable(?)

I will say higher end cars tend to have much better paint jobs, my AR is300 did not have orange peel, nor did my supras or svx. Though my impreza 2.5rs coupe and now the fr-s do.

[CircuitJerk]

Originally Posted by n2oinferno

Wouldn't they call it Mica then, instead of Dark Gray Metallic? Just curious, since I've seen plenty of manufacturers use ___ ___ Mica in the past.

You would think, but it's just a name. Of course, I could also be wrong.
One way to prove that out would be to compare a few colors with the magnifier. But from what I've seen of that color, I could have sworn I've seen that prismatic multicolor effect. It could be aluminum too.
I'll keep my eye loop available so I can stop by the dealer on the way home. There was one in that color there this weekend.

[Kwisak]

Originally Posted by jmaryt

really? wow! sounds like a "shit storm" to me!..just sayin'

I heard it from the dealer and over on the WRX forum. Again not saying its true, just wide spread, weather that wide spread bs or wide spread truth i cant attest to, never attempted to scratch two cars and see the difference lol

[GreySaber]

The above pic is of an "Asphaut grey" scion. Does the BRZ dark grey use all that flake?

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by GreySaber

The above pic is of an "Asphaut grey" scion. Does the BRZ dark grey use all that flake?

Looks identical to my co-workers '08 WRX and my other co-workers '10 STI.

Or at least I can't tell the difference.