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Old 04-16-2013, 01:53 AM   #15
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@Dave-ROR Was the dog also from the junkyard or did I misinterpret your description? Sounds like quite a weekend.

Sebring is fun to watch but my gosh it looks like hell on equipment.
The dog was with one of our co drivers.. first stint into a seven hour race Clinton spun and got t boned by a civic. broke the front knuckle, shock, brake line, sheared upper ball joint (and bent upper control arm) and bent the sway bar bracket. Luckily our one co driver arrived late so he had his truck outside the track, we ran out during the lunch stoppage (have to cross the track to get in/out of the track facilities), got everything from the junkyard but couldn't make it back in time before the track was hot again, so we arranged with the race organizers to let use run across during the race in a break in traffic. The track people didn't seem happy about that, but it was definitely a highlight of that race.

Sebring full course isn't too bad really, club course is murder on brakes. But the bumps, etc still aren't exactly friendly
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Old 04-16-2013, 02:23 AM   #16
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The dog was with one of our co drivers.. first stint into a seven hour race Clinton spun and got t boned by a civic. broke the front knuckle, shock, brake line, sheared upper ball joint (and bent upper control arm) and bent the sway bar bracket. Luckily our one co driver arrived late so he had his truck outside the track, we ran out during the lunch stoppage (have to cross the track to get in/out of the track facilities), got everything from the junkyard but couldn't make it back in time before the track was hot again, so we arranged with the race organizers to let use run across during the race in a break in traffic. The track people didn't seem happy about that, but it was definitely a highlight of that race.

Sebring full course isn't too bad really, club course is murder on brakes. But the bumps, etc still aren't exactly friendly
The RRR track people don't seem happy about a lot of things, is my experience.

But when you gotta deliver a new control arm, you gotta deliver a new control arm.

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I guess I just like to run on tracks that are great instead of mediocre when I'm spending hundreds of dollars to do so
In other words you would rather drive on the newer more expensive "country club" tracks. No respect for the history of Roebling Road or the simplicity of it? It is a once a year track for me, and I have enjoyed it every time. I do wish they had a bridge over the track like at Sebring and Road Atlanta though. I went to lunch and didn't make it back before the first session after lunch started and of course my race was the second session. I never got my car to grid faster than I did that day, and I only started a lap down.
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Any track is better than no track, but RRR is hardly a destination.

You guys need more VIR and Barber in your life.
Agree. It's in the middle of a shanty town and the lack of extra entrances/exits makes things interesting.


I REALLY want to get out to Barber ASAP. Followed by a road trip to VIR.
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I keep waiting each year for NASA to get a Barber event, but I am not confident it is going to happen. Me and akhuei were thinking about hitting up the Rezoom event at Barber later this year if you wanted to join us.
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In other words you would rather drive on the newer more expensive "country club" tracks. No respect for the history of Roebling Road or the simplicity of it? It is a once a year track for me, and I have enjoyed it every time. I do wish they had a bridge over the track like at Sebring and Road Atlanta though. I went to lunch and didn't make it back before the first session after lunch started and of course my race was the second session. I never got my car to grid faster than I did that day, and I only started a lap down.
Sebring and VIR are both older than RRR. I don't care much for RRR's history really, the simplicity of it is deceiving. Mid Ohio is just slightly younger. The only real country club track I listed was Autobahn and I don't rank it that highly. Well I guess AMP tries to be a country club track also but it's nowhere near one yet. AWESOME track though.

Also, it costs me MORE to run RRR than Sebring. There's no way I'd drive home after a DE (or race) from there, so that's 2 nights in a hotel, more gas there and back, plus more time involved. Consumables are lower though.

We've done well racing there when the car hasn't broken, but everyone on the team agrees that it's a "if no other events work out" choice...
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Sebring and VIR are both older than RRR. I don't care much for RRR's history really, the simplicity of it is deceiving. Mid Ohio is just slightly younger. The only real country club track I listed was Autobahn and I don't rank it that highly. Well I guess AMP tries to be a country club track also but it's nowhere near one yet. AWESOME track though.

Also, it costs me MORE to run RRR than Sebring. There's no way I'd drive home after a DE (or race) from there, so that's 2 nights in a hotel, more gas there and back, plus more time involved. Consumables are lower though.

We've done well racing there when the car hasn't broken, but everyone on the team agrees that it's a "if no other events work out" choice...
I have driven home from RRR on Sunday at the end of the day each time about 10 hours. I never really factor price into my track weekend choices, but as you know I only run NASA race weekends right now. That is weird that you say AMP is an awesome track. I haven't gotten that feedback from most of the guys in the Southeast especially the racers. It might be more of a destination DE track though, and I was signed up for the first NASA event there before they cancled it because the track wasn't ready in time. I will definitely get up there and hopefully race there.
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I have driven home from RRR on Sunday at the end of the day each time about 10 hours. I never really factor price into my track weekend choices, but as you know I only run NASA race weekends right now. That is weird that you say AMP is an awesome track. I haven't gotten that feedback from most of the guys in the Southeast especially the racers. It might be more of a destination DE track though, and I was signed up for the first NASA event there before they cancled it because the track wasn't ready in time. I will definitely get up there and hopefully race there.
Oh I actually think it's horrible for racing. I should have clarified that (most readers here care about DEs more I'd guess). I think I mentioned that to the guys (ironchef, ATL BRZ, etc) I was there with before. IMO if you ran a spec miata race there you'd have more cars leaving on flatbeds rather than driving off the track.

For DE's it's a blast though.

I can't do that drive home, I'm exhausted usually. I guess it never helps that I end up helping friends finish thier own cars until 2am the night before events though.

We thought about running there in November with Chumpcar even though I suggested against it (it was the backup selection this year as VIR and Sebring races are bad for others schedules). Instead we might run CMS in June right after Daytona in late May.
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Good choice. I want to run both Charlotte and Daytona one day. NASA used to do a race weekend at Charlotte, but they canned it this year. I'm jealous of how many track days you get to do a year. I have got to get a crap can racing team together and get to some more weekends each year.
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