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Old 12-15-2011, 03:58 PM   #15
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Wait, your avatar is a Scion logo though! I'd assume you'd be the last one to swap for Toyota badges!

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And completely de-badge the "FR-S" on the rear I suppose?
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Old 12-15-2011, 04:05 PM   #16
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No way its close to $21k...too close is price to the tC...but hey we can only hope!
Why not? The base Hyundai Gen Coupe starts @ 22k
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Old 12-15-2011, 04:10 PM   #17
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Wait, your avatar is a Scion logo though! I'd assume you'd be the last one to swap for Toyota badges!



And completely de-badge the "FR-S" on the rear I suppose?
Yes. That will be replaced by GT86 or 86 to match the 86 badge in the fender. I don't care who thinks that is ricerish because the car is the 86 underneath it all.
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Old 12-15-2011, 04:24 PM   #18
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Yes. That will be replaced by GT86 or 86 to match the 86 badge in the fender. I don't care who thinks that is ricerish because the car is the 86 underneath it all.
i dont think its ricerish its just something to catch a lot of heat when many times people talk about how they want how they want a cheap purposeful car and then spend money on things like badges.

not speaking to you in particular but there will be alot of people doing things counterintuitively
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Old 12-15-2011, 04:24 PM   #19
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Utilizing an extremely low center of gravity in a front, mid-engine, RWD setup that rivals the center-of-gravity height of such super cars as the Ferrari F360, Porsche Cayman and 911 GT3, you quickly realize that the FR-S is for real.
So...when they tested this car did they even look under the hood? Because this car's certainly not front mid-engined.
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Old 12-15-2011, 04:32 PM   #20
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So...when they tested this car did they even look under the hood? Because this car's certainly not front mid-engined.

It actually, by the book, is mid-engined. Specifically FMR

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid-engine_design

It's quite irrelevant however.
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i dont think its ricerish its just something to catch a lot of heat when many times people talk about how they want how they want a cheap purposeful car and then spend money on things like badges.

not speaking to you in particular but there will be alot of people doing things counterintuitively
I understand but badges are cheap as hell. I will spend more money on the rims/drop/spoiler I want on it. My setup will cost less than 3k

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It actually, by the book, is mid-engined. Specifically FMR

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid-engine_design

It's quite irrelevant however.
????

The engine is not placed behind the front axle in the FRS. Thus, it is not front mid-engined. If it was you better believe the weight distribution would not be 53/47.
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Wait, your avatar is a Scion logo though! I'd assume you'd be the last one to swap for Toyota badges!
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The engine is not placed behind the front axle in the FRS. Thus, it is not front mid-engined. If it was you better believe the weight distribution would not be 53/47.



I guess it really depends on where the COM lies for the motor assembly. It looks close to me, and I could swear this is not the only review that states FMR.

At the end of the day, all that matters are the driving dynamics, which are going to be 100% FR.
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The engine is not placed behind the front axle in the FRS. Thus, it is not front mid-engined. If it was you better believe the weight distribution would not be 53/47.
i think they just go by where the cog of the engine is and not the engine in its entirety, otherwise rr cars wouldnt exist. another thing, i dont think the 53/47 is really an issue. usually there is going to be in the car when its driving so that should help. that combined with the fact that you should be accelerating through the apices means that when the car is experiencing the most intense forces it should be closer 50/50
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The engine is not placed behind the front axle in the FRS. Thus, it is not front mid-engined. If it was you better believe the weight distribution would not be 53/47.
It is most assuredly a front-mid-engine. A front engine car has the engine in front of the front axle. That would put the shock towers up against the firewalls like in a FWD car with a transverse mounted engine. This car has the engine mounted on top of the front axle and extending behind it.

50:50 is marketing of the ideal distribution. Cars like the Miata and the RX-8 were not 50:50, more like 52:48 and 53:47 respectively. When the average car is 60:40, 53:47 is pretty good.
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So...when they tested this car did they even look under the hood? Because this car's certainly not front mid-engined.
I'm almost sure this is a FMR.
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I'm almost sure this is a FMR.
I would confidently Say that is IS. It's Defined as the Center of the Engine mass in relation to the wheel vertical center.

It's a matter of an inch or two (fore and aft) that classifies it either way. But i'd say Yes, it is
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