The lightning lap

[Grimlock]

Originally Posted by Grishbok

I am surprised at the slow times posted for the Focus ST and the Genesis 3.8 R.spec. I would think theyd post faster times than that. The rest are on par for the course, but I think these two cars were under-driven.

The Focus only had one day of testing because they lost/broke the key fob. If they would have had another day, it would have been faster they said.

[Grishbok]

Originally Posted by Grimlock

The Focus only had one day of testing because they lost/broke the key fob. If they would have had another day, it would have been faster they said.

Vindicated! Thank you sir, I knew something was up.

[Shagaliscious]

Originally Posted by Grishbok

you cared enough about it to post a retort, i feel like I inspired that, my job is done here.

Last I checked Gixxersixxerman started the thread...

But hey, whatever helps you sleep at night.

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by Gixxersixxerman

I had to go check.. I can't believe the mx5 was the slowest.. It's a great handling car.. I was suprised

yeah thats kinda funky but numbers dont really lie. iirc, both the miata and the brz took second in one of those "ten best drivers" comps from motortrend i think. there is a reason that the miata is the best selling vert and probably the most raced car ever.

Originally Posted by Grishbok

I am surprised at the slow times posted for the Focus ST and the Genesis 3.8 R.spec. I would think theyd post faster times than that. The rest are on par for the course, but I think these two cars were under-driven.

i am willing to bet that the st has an issue with the virtual diff and computer based tq limiting. id like to see how this car turns out with a mechanical diff and maybe a tune. i love this test for what it is but we have to wait and see when it comes to gauging a cars potential.

[Grishbok]

Originally Posted by fatoni

i am willing to bet that the st has an issue with the virtual diff and computer based tq limiting. id like to see how this car turns out with a mechanical diff and maybe a tune. i love this test for what it is but we have to wait and see when it comes to gauging a cars potential.

ive been saying for years they need to use a mechanical lsd and leave the computerized torque vectoring system alone. With a mechanical, you can proactively manipulate it with left foot braking, the torque vectoring system, is purely reactionary. It only reacts. When I tested the RS out, that was my chief criticism, the system works well, but its not as good as a proper mechanical lsd and lfb technique. This is why it fell a little short to the cobalt SS Turbo.

[Jaylyons1]

I was very impressed with how the BRZ finished. Looking over the cars that it beat out from previous lap times was surprising. I'm looking your way 08 STI.

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by Jaylyons1

I was very impressed with how the BRZ finished. Looking over the cars that it beat out from previous lap times was surprising. I'm looking your way 08 STI.

i think its more of the sti being garbage than the brz being a beast though. iirc the 2012 v6 mustang beasts the sti of the same vintage even with its lap time being set while it was on the speed governor for 9 seconds.

[SUB-FT86]

Yeah the Stang V6 PP rules LL1. But I am impressed with the ZL1 and the SS1LE. I thought 95% of people on this forum said heavy cars can't handle for shit?

[Jaylyons1]

Originally Posted by fatoni

i think its more of the sti being garbage than the brz being a beast though. iirc the 2012 v6 mustang beasts the sti of the same vintage even with its lap time being set while it was on the speed governor for 9 seconds.

I was impressed with other things too though. The BRZ did even beat out the M6 and came quite close to the M5 in several corners. I know they are boats but, even still, it keeps me entertained.

[xwd]

VIR has like a mile and a half of straightaways, definitely not a place for a good showing in the BRZ.

On the list I found the only car with less HP than the BRZ in the entire list was the Elise.

[Grimlock]

Originally Posted by dwx

VIR has like a mile and a half of straightaways, definitely not a place for a good showing in the BRZ.

On the list I found the only car with less HP than the BRZ in the entire list was the Elise.

Mini Cooper S and the Mazda Miata.

[LIKEABOSS]

I'd like to see the ZL1 and GT500 lap again. I have a feeling they weren't pushing the GT500 to the edge. The ZL1 is the easier car to drive but the GT500 is much more rewarding. On a large track it should have been a slight advantage for the Shelby. The 2011 GT500 had a faster Lightning Lap than both cars so something is screwy.

Impressive run for the BRZ. Good thing I didn't pickup a Focus ST.

[Stigmaru]

I have the latest Oct 2014 Car n Driver issue and was looking at the latest Lightning Lap lists and not a single mention of the twins!!! Even the miata and fiesta were on there!! What gives!?

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[Mikem53]

Originally Posted by AeroWRX

I have the latest Oct 2014 Car n Driver issue and was looking at the latest Lightning Lap lists and not a single mention of the twins!!! Even the miata and fiesta were on there!! What gives!?

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You need to read the article and not just look at the pictures..