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[Mach Midnight]

Just remembered something - The dealer that I got mine from said there were only two MY16 Ravens, and a red(?) one left in all of Pennsylvania.

[funwheeldrive]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

jmho

Three thousand bucks for a different shade of paint and a bunch of 'features' I have zero interest in just never tickled my fancy.

Glad you're happy with yours!

It's all about the headlights my man. The 86 just looks wrong without them.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

It's all about the headlights my man. The 86 just looks wrong without them.

If you lined up every headlight that's come in an 86 I don't think I could pick mine out.

Edit: seriously, in that picture I guess that angular white bar is what you're excited about? I really don't care.

Can't see it when I'm driving it, don't care what it looks like, and I'm strongly anti-HID.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

If you lined up every headlight that's come in an 86 I don't think I could pick mine out.

Can't see it when I'm driving it, don't care what it looks like, and I'm strongly anti-HID.

We need to start a club! I despise those things for so many reasons.

[venturaII]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

We need to start a club! I despise those things for so many reasons.

I'm already in that club, and I'm the CEO. HIDs are one of the worst automotive trends, ever.

[Adam_L]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

If you lined up every headlight that's come in an 86 I don't think I could pick mine out.

Edit: seriously, in that picture I guess that angular white bar is what you're excited about? I really don't care.

That is the day time running LED lights = increased safety depending upon time/ place. Are we all for , or against being more safe on the open roads with other drivers ? ... check them tires ...... at least out here in CA, lots of people run their tires thin, then rain hits ... and people are driving way-way slower , slipping and sliding Safety is job #1

[FR-Sky]

I wonder how many 10 series they have O.o ?

lol jk.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by Adam_L

That is the day time running LED lights = increased safety depending upon time/ place. Are we all for , or against being more safe on the open roads with other drivers ? ... check them tires ...... at least out here in CA, lots of people run their tires thin, then rain hits ... and people are driving way-way slower , slipping and sliding Safety is job #1

DRL have been on every 86 in every trim level across the world since the car has been made, so my car already has DRL. I guess those look different than my car? idfk, it's not making me nod my head and say 'oh yeah definitely worth spending extra money to get those'.

NHTSA and IIHS are critical of most car manufacturer headlights for inducing too much glare for other motorists. The IIHS just released it's headlight report and labeled 1 out of 82 cars as 'good', literally 1 car passed their test with flying colors (the new Prius V btw). The base halogens in the Honda Accord is noted as scoring 'acceptable' while the LED 'upgrade' scores lower at 'marginal', likely due to glare.

A vehicle with excessive glare on any of the approaches can't earn a rating above marginal.

http://www.iihs.org/iihs/news/deskto...ed-improvement

What part of California are you driving in? Dumbasses up here don't slow down at all in the rain which is why every major freeway gets an accident during any noteworthy storm. I agree proper lighting and tires and brakes are absolutely necessary for safe motoring, but all of those come on a base model 86.

[Adam_L]

Sounds like you are all good to go then on your exterior lighting situation then.

In some circumstances it is good to slow down a bit during a rain storm (especially when it is really dumping down) , but if it is light to moderate raining... and you have good tires ( I have Michelin hydroedge rain tires on my xA) , then posted speed limit can be maintained.. going that speed steady.

I live where it doesn't rain much , 30 miles from the coast , however mainly rains (Dec-March ... off/on). We got about a 1/4" a week ago.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by Adam_L

I live where it doesn't rain much , 30 miles from the coast , however mainly rains (Dec-March ... off/on). We got about a 1/4" a week ago.

I went autocrossing in that 'storm'

Most fun I've had all month, just wish I was in my car and not someone elses, oh well.

[Adam_L]

ohhh yeah you are from SF.

That storm was pretty much from Santa Barbara and to the north. I think Sat. night was the heaviest point. The kicker with first storms of the season is the oil run off / dirty roads , so cars can get squirly out there, especially when rolling with a janky tire that almost has no tread left on it , and abrupt stopping going 30+ mph
Stay safe folks