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Old 02-01-2016, 01:52 AM   #15
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If the battery is putting out 12.45 volts or more, and the starter won't go ...... you might check the battery ground cable, where it grounds to the engine.

Also, since you mentioned the starter was new, maybe check the connection from the battery at the starter.


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One last thing id try bc im not FI is unplugging battery for 5min. If it were one of my old cars id say gas pump related.

BTW starters and alternators can go bad bc of install even installed perfectly. I swapped 2 alternators before my pickup accepted the 3rd.
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Old 02-01-2016, 02:13 AM   #17
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OK, @Tomahawk ...... how is your headache ....??

You haven't got back to us on the voltage of your car's battery.

The exact voltage is quite important, as you can see from the attached chart.

A battery with ONLY 12.0 volts WON'T engage a starter.

Have a beer, take a deep breath and ....... come back.


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One last thing id try bc im not FI is unplugging battery for 5min. If it were one of my old cars id say gas pump related.

BTW starters and alternators can go bad bc of install even installed perfectly. I swapped 2 alternators before my pickup accepted the 3rd.
While we are waiting for Tomahawk, your story brings to mind a "back in the day" story.

It was a hot, humid day, back in Missouri, when my old Ford F-250 PU decided to sputter to a stop. I pulled off the air cleaner and the fuel line and no gas. I placed a dry rag over the detached fuel line and cranked the engine over several times. Still, no gas.

Fortunately, a Ford dealership was only about 1/2 mile down the road, so, I carried the old fuel pump down and traded it for a genuine, certified, re-built one. Well, it looked pretty.

However, IT DIDN’T work either ……… I was .....

So, being dripping wet from sweat and reeking of gasoline, I stormed into the parts department to get one that worked. Yes, is was the old style, fuel pump that was mechanically driven off the cam shaft …… so, unless I “lost” a cam lobe, the fuel pump was BAD!

The dude had his mechanic “bench check” it and sure enough the diaphragm was split. So, he gave me a NEW one. I installed it and my truck ran fine.

OK, where were we ……. ??


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Damn I went dumb on that one haha I have a headache since I've been trying to figure out what's going on but it's MT
Ok if its manual it will have a switch on clutch actually two switches. one switches when clutch fully released, the other when clutch pedal fully depressed. The fully depressed one needs to trigger ie your foot fully on clutch else car wont start.

not sure if its normally closed or open but test it with meter to see if it changes state when you press clutch or operate it with your finger.

if you had techstream software and adapter you can check it with that

Oh and wiggle the steering wheel in case the lock pin is loaded by the steering wheel the steering lock needs to release before car will start.

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Ok if its manual it will have a switch on clutch actually two switches. one switches when clutch fully released, the other when clutch pedal fully depressed. The fully depressed one needs to trigger ie your foot fully on clutch else car wont start.

not sure if its normally closed or open but test it with meter to see if it changes state when you press clutch or operate it with your finger.

if you had techstream software and adapter you can check it with that

Oh and wiggle the steering wheel in case the lock pin is loaded by the steering wheel the steering lock needs to release before car will start.
I'll do the test on the clutch when I get back. I had to come back to base for in processing. Gonna get a new battery since my dad just told me he didn't always turn on the car. I was under the impression that he did but if anything I'm just gonna take it to a shop (one of the shops on the list for our cars on this forum) and see if they can get it running. Just something I personally don't want to deal with especially since when I left the car was in perfect running condition. Sorry guys I haven't had much sleep so I knocked out earlier. I was used to being 11 hours ahead of pacific time and it's wearing me down. Hopefully soon I'll get this figured out and I'll keep you updated. Thank you everyone for the advice you guys really helped when I needed it
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He started it last week and took the battery to autozone and it was fine
I think that was me..
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I'll do the test on the clutch when I get back. I had to come back to base for in processing. Gonna get a new battery since my dad just told me he didn't always turn on the car. I was under the impression that he did but if anything I'm just gonna take it to a shop (one of the shops on the list for our cars on this forum) and see if they can get it running. Just something I personally don't want to deal with especially since when I left the car was in perfect running condition. Sorry guys I haven't had much sleep so I knocked out earlier. I was used to being 11 hours ahead of pacific time and it's wearing me down. Hopefully soon I'll get this figured out and I'll keep you updated. Thank you everyone for the advice you guys really helped when I needed it
My money is that the battery is just down from not running enough for that prolonged period of time. These cars seem to suck the life right out of batteries if not run for long periods.
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Reading your story, I was almost sure it would end with you yelling at the dealership guy for giving you a bad pump, and then figuring out that you had no gas in the tank, or something like that.
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Yeah since I lost my job two months ago my car is only being driven a couple of times a week and each time it's super sluggish turning over. After driving for ten miles or so it starts right back up like it's supposed to but it drains back down again within two or three days.
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Reading your story, I was almost sure it would end with you yelling at the dealership guy for giving you a bad pump, and then figuring out that you had no gas in the tank, or something like that.
Hahaha nah man but poor guy if I did
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Yeah since I lost my job two months ago my car is only being driven a couple of times a week and each time it's super sluggish turning over. After driving for ten miles or so it starts right back up like it's supposed to but it drains back down again within two or three days.
Well, I hope you get re-employed soon.

Time for a hook up to a battery charger to bring it all the way back up to strength. If that don't work ...... new battery time ......


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Remember payphones (Pacific Bell?) and landlines?

I'm only 26 but damn, I lived a harsh life in ghettos as a kid.



OP: Good luck getting to the fuel pump quick.... maybe 3-8hrs or all day on the first time you access it type of job. A DIY would be nice though.
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