follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Speed By Design
Register Garage Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB > 1st Gens: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 / Subaru BRZ > BRZ First-Gen (2012+) — General Topics

BRZ First-Gen (2012+) — General Topics All discussions about the first-gen Subaru BRZ coupe

Register and become an FT86Club.com member. You will see fewer ads

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 01-29-2016, 09:59 AM   #15
Nickosport
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Drives: 2015 WRB BRZ Premium
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 114
Thanks: 37
Thanked 58 Times in 39 Posts
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
I did the interior lights, trunk light and license plate lights. It was super easy, I didnt have any issues. I used @Diode Dynamics LEDs.

I didn't do the courtesy lights because I have a premium trim that doesn't have them. If you are really worried about shorting the BCM, just disconnect the battery and hit the brake.
__________________
2015 WRB BRZ - Nameless - Raceseng - Eibach - Whiteline - Cusco - Perrin

Last edited by Nickosport; 01-29-2016 at 10:19 AM.
Nickosport is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Nickosport For This Useful Post:
Diode Dynamics (01-29-2016)
Old 01-29-2016, 10:32 AM   #16
extrashaky
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Drives: 2014 BRZ Limited
Location: USA
Posts: 4,045
Thanks: 1,100
Thanked 5,618 Times in 2,266 Posts
Mentioned: 55 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Personally, other than the door pools, I don't get the appeal. The "improved" lighting in every one of these pics looks garish and harsh to me. Especially that ridiculous tag light that's brighter than the tails. The purpose is to make your tag visible to cops and other people who can jot down your license plate number when you fuck up, not to light up the neighborhood and blind drivers behind you. And I can imagine turning on the dome light momentarily while driving and not being able to see the road for the next 90 seconds.

I get wanting to run lights that draw less current, but why the overkill on brightness?
extrashaky is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to extrashaky For This Useful Post:
Dorb (01-30-2016)
Old 01-29-2016, 10:40 AM   #17
Tectoniic
#FiftyShadesOfBlue
 
Tectoniic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Drives: 2015 FR-S
Location: Chicago
Posts: 1,195
Thanks: 2,086
Thanked 1,425 Times in 730 Posts
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 4 Thread(s)
I also have full interior, rear plate, and daytime running light LED replacements from Diode Dynamics. Absolutely no problems and install was very simple.
__________________
Engine/Exhaust: OFT w/ E85 Tune | FT86SF Catted UEL | Invidia Q300 Catback
Wheels/Tires/Suspension: Avid.1 AV-20 18x8.5 +33 w/ 245/35/18 PSS | RCE Yellow Springs | Velox LCAs
Cosmetic: Valenti FT86SF Special Edition Tails | Diode Dynamics Full HID/LEDs | BRZ Fender Garnishes

Tectoniic is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Tectoniic For This Useful Post:
Diode Dynamics (01-29-2016)
Old 01-29-2016, 10:46 AM   #18
Grimlock
Senior Member
 
Grimlock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Drives: BRZ and NA
Location: Annapolis, MD
Posts: 878
Thanks: 46
Thanked 270 Times in 167 Posts
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by extrashaky View Post
Personally, other than the door pools, I don't get the appeal. The "improved" lighting in every one of these pics looks garish and harsh to me. Especially that ridiculous tag light that's brighter than the tails. The purpose is to make your tag visible to cops and other people who can jot down your license plate number when you fuck up, not to light up the neighborhood and blind drivers behind you. And I can imagine turning on the dome light momentarily while driving and not being able to see the road for the next 90 seconds.

I get wanting to run lights that draw less current, but why the overkill on brightness?

I kind of agree with all of this, especially the tail lights. I don't think my Premium BRZ has the door courtesy lights, so I won't do those. But I wouldn't mind have a much brighter light in the trunk. That could be very useful.

I can also see brightening up the dome light a bit, but that's because I can't recall ever turning it on while driving.

But you are definitely right about the color temperature. It's way too harsh.
Grimlock is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Grimlock For This Useful Post:
Dorb (01-30-2016)
Old 01-29-2016, 10:47 AM   #19
Diode Dynamics
 
Diode Dynamics's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S
Location: St. Louis, Missouri
Posts: 2,770
Thanks: 1,503
Thanked 1,761 Times in 877 Posts
Mentioned: 197 Post(s)
Tagged: 5 Thread(s)
To prevent any possibility of blowing a fuse, you'll want to disconnect the courtesy light socket, install the bulb into the housing, and re-install the housing.

As others have mentioned, the BRZ has a terrible circuit design, which can be prone to issues if you "hot-plug" any LED into that courtesy light location.

Hot-plugging refers to plugging the LED into the housing while it's still receiving power

Nick C.
__________________
John C.
Diode Dynamics
Follow Us: FB // IG // YT // TikTok
Diode Dynamics is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2016, 11:16 AM   #20
extrashaky
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Drives: 2014 BRZ Limited
Location: USA
Posts: 4,045
Thanks: 1,100
Thanked 5,618 Times in 2,266 Posts
Mentioned: 55 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimlock View Post
But I wouldn't mind have a much brighter light in the trunk. That could be very useful.
I can agree with that. The trunk light could be brighter, but that's not its only problem. The big problem is that the car really needs two lights in the trunk, one on each side.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimlock View Post
I can also see brightening up the dome light a bit, but that's because I can't recall ever turning it on while driving.
The problem with the stock dome light is not that it's dim. The problem is that it's the only source of illumination inside the car, and the design of the interior leaves dark shadows in a lot of places you'd like to be able to see. Brightening up the dome light doesn't fix those shadows. If anything, it makes it more difficult to see into them.

If you look at the lighting in a luxury car, you'll often see more than just dome lights. There will also be footwell lighting and sometimes some soft side-lighting, especially in the rear seats. Our dome light with its single source gives the ambiance of an interrogation room, and even more so if you make it brighter.

extrashaky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2016, 12:05 PM   #21
Joyride86
Senior Member
 
Joyride86's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Drives: 15 FR-S Firestorm MT
Location: Frederick, MD
Posts: 193
Thanks: 83
Thanked 202 Times in 98 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
All of your points are valid and I agree with pretty much all of them. Most people do it for the color change, myself included. The brightness factor is more of a secondary benefit. Most members here do visual mods. A much smaller portion of us actually do true functional mods.
__________________
Diode Dynamics Tail as Turn, LEDs, HIDs | Yospeed Custom Plaque and Frame | Suntek Carbon Tint | Spyder Smoked Side Markers | GrimmSpeed License Plate Relocator and Hood Struts | Five:AD Spoiler | JDM Armrest | Beat-Sonic Backup Cam | Moddiction Anvil 2 | Invidia N2 |
Joyride86 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2016, 12:28 PM   #22
B-R-Z
I love peanut butter
 
B-R-Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Drives: 2013 SWP BRZ Limited
Location: NJ
Posts: 1,598
Thanks: 428
Thanked 584 Times in 349 Posts
Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Garage
For me, the white LEDs seem brighter in the dome light but I feel like the light output is better and more usable from an incandescent bulb. Anyone else?
B-R-Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2016, 01:36 PM   #23
pfaffendorn
Senior Member
 
pfaffendorn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Drives: 2014 ssm BRZ Limited 6M
Location: Western North Carolina
Posts: 259
Thanks: 239
Thanked 178 Times in 108 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
The issue remains

Quote:
Originally Posted by soilent View Post
I want to convert all of my stock incandescent bulbs to LED, but I've read some horror stories about shorting out a computer when installing the door curtesy lights. I was just wondering if this is still an issue and if people have had problems with LEDs in other locations like trunk, dome, reverse lights, etc. Thanks.
I did the same thing last week. All the other LED upgrades went flawlessly, but as I replaced the bulb in the driver's door, the bulb flashed bright for an instant and then went dim. Now I could have shorted out the socket with the screwdriver I was leveraging the OE bulb out with, but whatever the cause, the door lights remain one dim, one bright, and they stay that way 24/7, doors open or closed. Two small LEDs don't seem to affect the battery at all, and I can find no other anomalies in the car's systems, so I am in no hurry to get it fixed. I'll ask the dealer when I take it for its first service -- and good luck to you: many guys here have done their LED upgrade without a hitch.
__________________
There are worse things to worry over.
pfaffendorn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2016, 02:56 PM   #24
frznBRZ
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Drives: 2015 BRZ Ltd
Location: CT
Posts: 27
Thanks: 219
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by pfaffendorn View Post
I did the same thing last week. All the other LED upgrades went flawlessly, but as I replaced the bulb in the driver's door, the bulb flashed bright for an instant and then went dim. Now I could have shorted out the socket with the screwdriver I was leveraging the OE bulb out with, but whatever the cause, the door lights remain one dim, one bright, and they stay that way 24/7, doors open or closed. Two small LEDs don't seem to affect the battery at all, and I can find no other anomalies in the car's systems, so I am in no hurry to get it fixed. I'll ask the dealer when I take it for its first service -- and good luck to you: many guys here have done their LED upgrade without a hitch.
I have the "dim/bright" issue too. Except my drivers side door is "bright" and my passenger side one is "dim" (dim meaning, it looks like only half the plastic piece is lighting up).
If I put the OEM bulb back in, the passenger side lights up just fine. I even swapped the LED bulbs to the opposite sides, and still its only the passenger side that is "dim."
Both door lights go off when I close my doors though. IDK if it's an issue with the plastic piece, or an issue with the wiring/fuse on that side of the car? I bought my LEDs from Diode Dynamics.
It's not super annoying because I rarely have passengers in my car, so the door is never really opened. But I would be interested in knowing what the problem is.
frznBRZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2016, 03:41 PM   #25
PandaSPUR
PandaPandaPandaPandaPanda
 
PandaSPUR's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Drives: 2015 BRZ Limited CWP
Location: New York City, NY
Posts: 1,432
Thanks: 776
Thanked 697 Times in 438 Posts
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by extrashaky View Post
Personally, other than the door pools, I don't get the appeal. The "improved" lighting in every one of these pics looks garish and harsh to me. Especially that ridiculous tag light that's brighter than the tails. The purpose is to make your tag visible to cops and other people who can jot down your license plate number when you fuck up, not to light up the neighborhood and blind drivers behind you. And I can imagine turning on the dome light momentarily while driving and not being able to see the road for the next 90 seconds.

I get wanting to run lights that draw less current, but why the overkill on brightness?
I didn't do LEDs for the brightness, I did it for the light color.

I prefer a crisp white light over the warm yellow hue from incandescent bulbs.
PandaSPUR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2016, 03:43 PM   #26
go_a_way1
Not Bаnned Anymore
 
go_a_way1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Drives: Heavily Modified FRS
Location: Calgary, AB
Posts: 9,827
Thanks: 14,918
Thanked 8,275 Times in 4,797 Posts
Mentioned: 355 Post(s)
Tagged: 374 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by B-R-Z View Post
For me, the white LEDs seem brighter in the dome light but I feel like the light output is better and more usable from an incandescent bulb. Anyone else?
Agree, especially when its not super dark out.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1GiantTurtle View Post
This thread got de-railed quick now it's just about Penis guitars
go_a_way1 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to go_a_way1 For This Useful Post:
86kahl (01-29-2016)
Old 01-29-2016, 03:47 PM   #27
extrashaky
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Drives: 2014 BRZ Limited
Location: USA
Posts: 4,045
Thanks: 1,100
Thanked 5,618 Times in 2,266 Posts
Mentioned: 55 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by B-R-Z View Post
For me, the white LEDs seem brighter in the dome light but I feel like the light output is better and more usable from an incandescent bulb. Anyone else?
Yep. Two reasons:

One is as I said above, the shadows don't change, but increasing the brightness of the light will make your eye see more contrast and less detail in the dark areas of your car. So a brighter light will make the dark areas seem darker.

The other reason is that LED lighting is not continuous spectrum like incandescent. As a result, some colors sometimes appear "weird" or washed out under certain LEDs.

Taken together, a bright LED without great color rendition can make an area almost appear monochrome. LEDs are great for some applications and not so great for others. The problem here is that a lot of people are just jumping on the LED bandwagon and convince themselves it looks totally awesome without realizing they're making their lighting less effective and, in cases like that ridiculous blown out tag light, ugly.
extrashaky is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to extrashaky For This Useful Post:
86kahl (01-29-2016), Dorb (01-30-2016)
Old 01-29-2016, 05:02 PM   #28
86kahl
Senior Member
 
86kahl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Drives: whiteout, dark tint
Location: SOCAL
Posts: 308
Thanks: 2,453
Thanked 335 Times in 133 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by B-R-Z View Post




Holy shit that's bright. 👍🏽👍🏽
86kahl is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Rotating tires if one is newer than the rest, how? PandaSPUR Mechanical Maintenance (Oil, Fluids, Break-In, Servicing) 23 01-28-2016 09:40 PM
Looking to move to a newer tool box Concorazon Off-Topic Lounge [WARNING: NO POLITICS] 15 11-01-2015 10:53 AM
How to use newer revisions of OFT maps? ie 700I to A01I derka-derka Software Tuning 3 09-05-2015 09:21 AM
eBay Switchback 7443 LEDs fitment issues in turn signal housing dracullus DIY (Do-It-Yourself) Guides 0 08-27-2014 11:28 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:43 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.