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[RedLeader]

Originally Posted by Evil86

Insofar as scca rules are concerned, you would be STR because STR allows any size tire.

I don't know about the 2013 rules, but for 2012 I'd still be in STX, unless I WANTED to get wasted by miatas and S2k's in STR. The only difference is maximum tire width and maximum wheel width:

Any wheels are allowed with widths up to the following:
STF, STC, STS, STR (AWD) – 7.5”
STX (AWD) – 8.0”
STX (2WD), STR (2WD) – 9.0”
STU – unlimited

I imagine no one would complain if I ran a narrower wheel/tire combo in a higher class (running an 8" wheel in STX wouldn't get me in trouble) and since most of the 16" wheels I'm seeing are 7-8" wide, I'd be fine. The max TIRE width for STX is 265mm, but I'd never try to squeeze a tire that wide on a wheel as narrow as 7".


The biggest reason I see for going to a smaller diameter wheel/tire is weight (price being a second point). Many of the 16" wheels are 16lbs each, which is about 4lbs per corner less. THe price point comes in when you compare the price to 16lb 17" wheels. The Sparco Assetto Gara is $130 per wheel in 16", weighs 16.4lbs (16.5-16.6lbs for painted ones); in 17" its $148 per wheel and weighs 18.8lbs. So tires may not be much cheaper, but the weight per wheel and price difference between wheels is where my mind is going. I'm sure tire weights would be similar to 17" ones, soe I'm not likely to lose or gain any weight there unless I go to a noticeably higher or lower profile tire.

Are they bumping the minimum treadwear rating up for 2013? I heard that nasty rumor but I wasn't 100% what they were going up to. That may influence my tire pricing dilemma.

[Evil86]

Originally Posted by RedLeader

I don't know about the 2013 rules, but for 2012 I'd still be in STX, unless I WANTED to get wasted by miatas and S2k's in STR. The only difference is maximum tire width and maximum wheel width:

Any wheels are allowed with widths up to the following:
STF, STC, STS, STR (AWD) – 7.5”
STX (AWD) – 8.0”
STX (2WD), STR (2WD) – 9.0”
STU – unlimited

I imagine no one would complain if I ran a narrower wheel/tire combo in a higher class (running an 8" wheel in STX wouldn't get me in trouble) and since most of the 16" wheels I'm seeing are 7-8" wide, I'd be fine. The max TIRE width for STX is 265mm, but I'd never try to squeeze a tire that wide on a wheel as narrow as 7".


The biggest reason I see for going to a smaller diameter wheel/tire is weight (price being a second point). Many of the 16" wheels are 16lbs each, which is about 4lbs per corner less. THe price point comes in when you compare the price to 16lb 17" wheels. The Sparco Assetto Gara is $130 per wheel in 16", weighs 16.4lbs (16.5-16.6lbs for painted ones); in 17" its $148 per wheel and weighs 18.8lbs. So tires may not be much cheaper, but the weight per wheel and price difference between wheels is where my mind is going. I'm sure tire weights would be similar to 17" ones, soe I'm not likely to lose or gain any weight there unless I go to a noticeably higher or lower profile tire.

Are they bumping the minimum treadwear rating up for 2013? I heard that nasty rumor but I wasn't 100% what they were going up to. That may influence my tire pricing dilemma.

Sorry, I meant STX, it is probably because I've spent the last year in STR that I wrote STX. SCCA decided to wait and revisit treadwear later. I will ask in the Az solo forum to see what people there think.

[Oliver]

Originally Posted by chrisbfrs

Set it up like the Invidia N1 kits.

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For the price of building an N1 style exhaust it'll be cheaper to just buy the Invidia exhaust.

[chrisbfrs]

Originally Posted by Oliver

For the price of building an N1 style exhaust it'll be cheaper to just buy the Invidia exhaust.

Ya Invidia are good price, just wasn't sure if Jeffsides was stuck on that exact muffler.
I have a brand new single in dual out Magnaflow for sale if anyone interested.

[jeffsides]

Originally Posted by Oliver

For the price of building an N1 style exhaust it'll be cheaper to just buy the Invidia exhaust.

I'm building the system for under $200. Much cheaper than buying the system.

[jeffsides]

Just ordered 2 of these.

Should have it done in the next 2 weeks or so.

[chrisbfrs]

Originally Posted by jeffsides

Just ordered 2 of these.
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Should have it done in the next 2 weeks or so.

I like the carbon fiber tips

[Yruyur]

That local shop that I went to had some tips with carbon fiber. Looked nice but would have had to wait a day for them..and I dont like waiting.

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[captain_jack]

Originally Posted by Yruyur

That local shop that I went to had some tips with carbon fiber. Looked nice but would have had to wait a day for them..and I dont like waiting.

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Im pretty impatient as well..... Somehow ive managed to keep this car intact this long. Wife laughs at me because she knows shes gonna come home one day and the car will be completely apart in one fashion or another....

[Yruyur]

Lol

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[Yruyur]

I fuc@#$/ swear to god.....

Just came from the car wash. Went straight to my house to see my daughter. Was parked in my driveway.....the only other car that was there left while I was there......she is not admitting anything.

Guess it will be homeowners insurance since I was in my driveway. I should just sell this thing and get Tacoma again.

Not one insurance claim in over 5 + years and since June my car has been hit three times resulting in two claims. Not once being my fault. Fffffffuuuuu.

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[Accurate Race Shop]

Originally Posted by Yruyur

I fuc@#$/ swear to god.....

Just came from the car wash. Went straight to my house to see my daughter. Was parked in my driveway.....the only other car that was there left while I was there......she is not admitting anything.

Guess it will be homeowners insurance since I was in my driveway. I should just sell this thing and get Tacoma again.

Not one insurance claim in over 5 + years and since June my car has been hit three times resulting in two claims. Not once being my fault. Fffffffuuuuu.

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Damn man that really sucks!!! I hope the body shop can fix it without having to order replacement parts. I thought I was having bad luck with mine looks like you just get the shaft with this thing every time you turn around!

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[jeffsides]

Originally Posted by Yruyur

I fuc@#$/ swear to god.....

Just came from the car wash. Went straight to my house to see my daughter. Was parked in my driveway.....the only other car that was there left while I was there......she is not admitting anything.

Guess it will be homeowners insurance since I was in my driveway. I should just sell this thing and get Tacoma again.

Not one insurance claim in over 5 + years and since June my car has been hit three times resulting in two claims. Not once being my fault. Fffffffuuuuu.

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OMG! Dude that's sucks. Sorry bro

[BRZ_Driver]

Originally Posted by Yruyur

I fuc@#$/ swear to god.....

Just came from the car wash. Went straight to my house to see my daughter. Was parked in my driveway.....the only other car that was there left while I was there......she is not admitting anything.

Guess it will be homeowners insurance since I was in my driveway. I should just sell this thing and get Tacoma again.

Not one insurance claim in over 5 + years and since June my car has been hit three times resulting in two claims. Not once being my fault. Fffffffuuuuu.

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Fuuuu! Who ever did that is an ultimate lowlife. It wouldn't kill them to take responsibility. Sorry this happened to Chris.