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Marrk · 10-15-2011, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

I know comparing a used car to a new car is apples to oranges, but....

I bought my S2000 when it was one year old, with only 4800 miles on the odometer, for $21,300. And given how far vehicle performance has progressed in the last 10 years (WRX, Mustang, MS3, etc) I don't think it's unreasonable to desire it's performance to be on par with the S2000 (a sports car designed in the 90s). Though without a forced induction power option (or a curb weight under 2500 lbs) I don't see how it can match the S2000.

Also, the S2000 still IS a blast to drive

I don't agree with any of this, except "the s2k is still a blast to drive part."

I was comparing a new s2k to an FT-86.

I don't believe that ten years of technological advancements in LFAs and 458s and McLarens is going to turn a $20k car into a $30k. And I'm not even adjusting for inflation on that $30k.

My point was, and always has been, to take the car for what it is. So far, it looks like the FT-86 is going to be a blast to drive.

[To the Forum: Sorry for going, like, a million miles off topic.]

Marrk · 10-15-2011, 12:42 PM

FWIW, the October 2011 issue of _Car_ magazine says that the FT-86 will have "around 200 hp and 170 ft/lb torque." Their info is probably old, but I like that torque number.

Edit: They also said that there was a lightweight Type R "in the pipeline."

subatoy · 10-15-2011, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Deslock

It's currently 3rd (out of 5, if I read it correctly) in its class:

122 258 Kagayama 12 5L 10:42.730 11:28.556 129.976 SP3 3.

what in this world do all those numbers mean???

Spaceywilly · 10-15-2011, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Deslock

It's currently 3rd (out of 5, if I read it correctly) in its class:

122 258 Kagayama 12 5L 10:42.730 11:28.556 129.976 SP3 3.

Quote:

Originally Posted by subatoy

what in this world do all those numbers mean???

Position, Number, Driver, Laps, Gap, Best Lap, Last Lap, Avg. Speed, Class, Position in class

Kids Heart · 10-15-2011, 02:54 PM

Looks like its currently 4th in class

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ichitaka05 · 10-15-2011, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Kids Heart

Looks like its currently 4th in class

3rd my friend

SUB-FT86 · 10-15-2011, 03:11 PM

That Type R looks like its fast as hell. The s2k is a good bit faster than the FT which makes sense.

Michel · 10-15-2011, 03:13 PM

Those cars have been driving on the Nordschleife a little bit more then the FT86 (understatement) so it's pretty normal for them being faster.

SUB-FT86 · 10-15-2011, 03:16 PM

Since it weighs 2425 lbs in stripped mode how much weight do you guys think the stock car would add?

Kids Heart · 10-15-2011, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SUB-FT86

Since it weighs 2425 lbs in stripped mode how much weight do you guys think the stock car would add?

I'm thinking not much more. take away the cage and aero, add sound deadening, carpet and backseat.

blur · 10-15-2011, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SUB-FT86

Since it weighs 2425 lbs in stripped mode how much weight do you guys think the stock car would add?

Subtract 150 lbs for the massive rollcage, add ~75 lbs for interior weight reduction... 2350 lbs? INSANE. lol

Kiwi · 10-15-2011, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by blur

Subtract 150 lbs for the massive rollcage, add ~75 lbs for interior weight reduction... 2350 lbs? INSANE. lol

Also plus the weight of the passenger seat and rear bench, that should be where most of the extra weight is.

ichitaka05 · 10-15-2011, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiwi

Also plus the weight of the passenger seat and rear bench, that should be where most of the extra weight is.

I don't think this thing have sound deader... so gotta add 5~20lbs

4agze · 10-15-2011, 03:37 PM

3rd yeah

10-15-2011, 12:42 PM	#254
Marrk Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Drives: Honda Fit Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,004 Thanks: 722 Thanked 125 Times in 90 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	FWIW, the October 2011 issue of _Car_ magazine says that the FT-86 will have "around 200 hp and 170 ft/lb torque." Their info is probably old, but I like that torque number. Edit: They also said that there was a lightweight Type R "in the pipeline." Last edited by Marrk; 10-15-2011 at 08:04 PM.

10-15-2011, 03:13 PM	#260
Michel Nordschleife Addict Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: '92 SW20 Turbo Location: 100 miles from Nürburgring Posts: 59 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Those cars have been driving on the Nordschleife a little bit more then the FT86 (understatement) so it's pretty normal for them being faster. __________________

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