Haters gonna Hate...vandalism on our FR-S

[GLADIATOR]

Couple of things.

Nobody knows about this but the two school faculty members.....and all you guys, LOL.

My wife feels sorry for the punk...go figure?

I feel relieved that I at least I know who did it...

Gonna try and get some legal advice before my next step, but seriously considering going to see the police tomorrow. We have decided to not go to the parking lot anymore.

[extrashaky]

Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN

Aren't there police officers and lawyers on this forum that can prove this as legal or illegal?

I'm not sure what would be illegal. I'm not a cop or lawyer, but I had to know the trespassing laws pretty well when I shot television news because people would often threaten to call the cops on us just for doing our jobs. The way trespass laws generally work is that in order to be trespassing on publicly accessible property, you have to be established as a trespasser. In other words, you have to be instructed to leave by someone in control of the property, or there has to be some kind of signage indicating permitted or prohibited uses of the property.

For example, you're in the school parking lot, the principal comes out and tells you to leave, but you don't. That's trespassing.

Or there are signs up that say, "No Loitering," and you loiter. You're trespassing, but to really make that stick, someone needs to tell you to leave.

Malls will often post rules at the entrances, with a clear statement that you are trespassing if you violate the rules. That establishes the trespasser before he even becomes one.

If there's a "No Trespassing" sign, passing it establishes you as a trespasser.

If there's a fence, that's considered an implicit message that the person who put that fence there doesn't want you inside it. So you can't go into someone's fenced back yard and then say, "But nobody told me to leave." When I was in news, we had the right to walk up to someone's front door and knock. If the homeowner told us to get off his property, we had to move out to the public right of way on the street. But we couldn't walk around to the back and knock on the back door, because that wouldn't have been considered the public side of the building.

So if this is just a publicly accessible school parking lot that parents often use for parking when visiting the school, these people may not be trespassing even if they're just lurking in their cars. It really depends on the signage around the school and whether they've been told to leave. This is a lot different from going inside the school and walking around in an area that isn't supposed to be accessible to the public.

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

Nobody knows about this but the two school faculty members.....and all you guys, LOL.

So why are they not reviewing the video or allowing you to review it? What do they have to hide?

[FRSBRZGT86FAN]

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

Couple of things.

Nobody knows about this but the two school faculty members.....and all you guys, LOL.

My wife feels sorry for the punk...go figure?

I feel relieved that I at least I know who did it...

Gonna try and get some legal advice before my next step, but seriously considering going to see the police tomorrow. We have decided to not go to the parking lot anymore.

The kids probably know we always know when parents get involved....

[Strife26]

Originally Posted by Zozr

Why would anyone be jealous of a $20,000 car?

Probably every teacher at his school drives a Camry or Sienna worth more than that car.

I think you like to think it's jealousy.

Are you on the forum to troll?

Mine was more than 20k and I park as far away from the store as I can and ended up with a door ding. Had to be a hater to go out as far as me then put a ding in my door... I would call it jealousy, or just hating, but aren't they the same?

[Strife26]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Most people don't know it is a $20K car!
Most people don't know it is a "slow" car.
Most people don't know there are two Twins
Most people don't know squat about these cars.
We as "car guys" know these things and seem to assume that everybody else does as well. This is so far from reality it is ridiculous!

I meant to make these points in my last post. Thank you. Most people don't even know what it is then gasp when I say it is a Subaru.

The series.blue gets an insane amount of attention.
The first question is, "Is it fast?"...sigh

[Strife26]

Thanks! Love the post. Too true. Series.Blue is 29k...a bit more than 20k

[Strife26]

Originally Posted by brzbrad

I was in a mall parking lot and saw an old Durango had parked unnecessarily close to me, I always make sure to park near the back of parking lots to avoid this kind of situation. There were plenty of open spots around me and most were closer to the mall, but they parked about five inches away from me. I went up to my car, and sure enough, there was some extra red paint and some of my paint chipped off. It was in a place by the fender that is only noticeable to me, but I made sure to leave a note for them. It said something to the effect of, "Thanks (license plate #) for the red paint! Rest assured that I will find out who you are and you should be expecting a bill soon. From, the guy who parks in the back of parking lots so assholes like you don't need to pay for your lack of intelligence."

I had no intentions of finding them/making them pay, but they deserved to think that for a while. I just wish I could have seen their face when they read it.

Wish I could of been so lucky to see who dinged my car. I don't get too angry often, but this would piss me off because I too park FAR away from wherever I am headed. I get so pissed when people park near me to be ass holes or mock me or w/e. F off!

[RickyBobby]

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

Couple of things.

Nobody knows about this but the two school faculty members.....and all you guys, LOL.

My wife feels sorry for the punk...go figure?

I feel relieved that I at least I know who did it...

Gonna try and get some legal advice before my next step, but seriously considering going to see the police tomorrow. We have decided to not go to the parking lot anymore.

Did I miss something here? Your wife was hiding out at the school and saw someone kick the door of a black nissan, not your son's car, and there is no video surveillance yet of this person damaging your son's car.
So what are you going to report to the police?

Times have really changed. Yeah I'm one of the old f**kers on the forum. When I went to high school most of us took the bus or walked because our parents could barely afford a family car.

When my kids went to high school almost all the kids were driving cars to school, but mostly beaters. My kids drove our 12 year old, already banged up, Ford Aerostar. I didn't give a s**t if it got dinged up more, which it did.

Today we feel like we owe our kids more. We want to give them the things we didn't have because we can afford it. Nothing wrong with that up to a point.

Vandalism is morally and legally wrong and those that do it should be punished, but if you buy your son an almost new FR-S to drive to high school you have to realize the risks that go with it.

[GLADIATOR]

One of the things I noticed is that there are some way more expensive cars in the HS parking lot than our car. This is a douche bag that has something against imports, plain and simple.

This is about one shitbag vandalizing cars. He also hit a Nissan sentra. That students parents should have known the risks of buying a Fawkin Nissan Sentra.

See how stupid that sounds?

[Strife26]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Teenagers are no better or worse then they have ever been in recorded history - every generation just thinks the following ones are worse.

High school is no harder or easier then it was in any other generation - it has always required higher grades to get into the best colleges this is not a new thing.

Schooling is different for everybody - what some find very easy others can not grasp the same as the rest of life

Schools are not all the same so they can not be compared on an equal basis- never been there but willing to bet high end cars are common at schools in Beverly Hills and not so much in Compton.

Some people have money some don't - those with buy their kids nice cars, those without do not.

Good grades and being an athlete do not equal being a "good" kid and poor grades and no extracurricular activities do not equal being a "bad" kid - you have as many good or bad in either group.

Have I ever seen a thread with so much subjective opinions and theories unsupported by objective evidence or data - NO

And this post has zero sources for these "facts."

[Strife26]

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

I appreciate everybody's feedback. I didn't realize this thread would become this large.

Still waiting on school to view camera footage.

As far as my son, I couldn't of asked for a better young man. Someday you will have an 18 year old. If you are like me, I want to give him every opportunity to succeed in life. One of which is a reliable car. I was sick of fixing his pos jetta. I wanted a newer civic but we found this scion for a little bit more and we all fell in love with it.

Background info: my son will also be racing my 900 hp mustang notch for me.

You don't need to justify buying your son any car man. Ignore the people talking crap. He is your child and you make your own choices. Don't feed the trolls.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Strife26

And this post has zero sources for these "facts."

Ya that was sortta my point!

[Turbo95eg6]

Darn, still no proof the accused "vandal" has done anything to the FRS.

Here is what you do OP… You and your wife need to dig in a little deeper. Stalking in the parking will not get you further, you must now become one of them. Shave your mustache, get some "hip" outfits from your son and start hanging around him and in class. Attend social settings if you can, high school parties and school dances are a good way to start.

The important thing is to blend in, and don't give yourself away. I repeat, do not give yourself away!!! I cannot stress this enough. Once you are "in", start asking questions around about the vandal. Slowly and steady, start befriending the vandal by taking the same classes. Tell him how much you hate imports, as well. When the moment seems right, ask the vandal if he would like to join you to vandalize some cars after class. Due to your conclusion that he has a dislike for imports, he should go straight to the FRS. Have wife record the crime from the bushes, while wearing tactical camouflage gear. If all goes as planned, it will result in solving the mystery!

Sure, this will take time and effort, but seems like you and your wife have nothing else but free time.

Please take precaution. I wish you luck on your mission!

[torqdork]

It would be easier just going to the perps Facebook page.