FR-S v.s. BRZ

[Lytheum]

almost "ALL" dealers a using a $5k markup???...lol

i think its the other way around...very few are using markup

and as far as aftermarket stuff...if it fits one it will fit the other. minus items involving the front bumper.

[VADER]

Originally Posted by Lytheum

almost "ALL" dealers a using a $5k markup???...lol

i think its the other way around...very few are using markup

and as far as aftermarket stuff...if it fits one it will fit the other. minus items involving the front bumper.

Yes, there have been many reports of Subaru mark-up's. And you pointed out what I meant. The FR-S and BRZ are VERY similar yes, but they do have quite a few cosmetic differences. And a lot of the reports on modifications both cosmetically and mechanically have been mostly on the FR-S. The reason? I'm not sure, but it's fact.

[chulooz]

Welcome to the community. Please expand your knowledge and do not spread misinformation. Thanks :happy0180:

[VADER]

Not misinforming anyone. I didn't know I had to be so technical down to the molecular level. I figured you all know what I meant seeing as you are long time members. And yet I still have to explain myself. Oh well..

[chulooz]

Here I can help you out and allow me to explain myself... we arnt talking molecules, just cars.

Originally Posted by FR-S Dan

Sorry, I got OEM and JDM mixed up. OEM parts on this Japanese car are JDM. The turning signal on the BRZ is inside the actual headlight, where as the turning signal on the FR-S is slightly below the headlight and is seperate. Nope. Scion is Toyota, no if's and's or but's.Literally yes, but they are different brands with a different staff They just made Scion as a branch to appeal to the younger generation (I'm 22 btw). BRZ does not offer BeSpoke, so don't see your point. For $800 you can buy a much better system and you havent tried either yet still knock the subie. Even without BeSpoke the BRZ's touchscreen does not match the FR-S. I don't know why you keep mentioning Toyota, then saying "no wait, SCION" once again, they are the same.Not saying that Subaru is below grade stuff, I'm just saying the experience as a whole will be better through Toyota.You will go to a Scion dealership to buy this car, perhaps it will be joined with a Toyota one but thats not a given Almost all Subaru dealerships are slapping $5k premiums on the BRZ's BECAUSE they don't have the pure pricing program so they don't have that rule to abide by.Once again this is bull... and pure pricing just means they will sell the car for whatever they advertise it as. So if its marked up to $25,500 thats what it will cost to buy it, no haggling involved And IF Subaru didn't mark up the car at a dealership the basic MT is $25,495 compared to the $24,930 for the basic MT FR-S, difference of $565. That $565 can go a long way.Yeah like HIDs but it wont even get you bespoke The release parties are just a plus in my books Sure, for 86 people... Actually, 85. A Scion dealership already screwed a guy out of his.

I see you either have a BRZ or are planning on owning one in the future. Sorry but these are my opinions, sorry you don't agree haha! (There is a reason why most members on here are going FR-S Yeah, because of production numbers

[VADER]

^^^True troll. You're trying to get a point across and it's not working. Turn on the signal lights of an FR-S and look at it from the front, then turn do the same with the BRZ. You're going to tell me they are the same? You must be blind. Scion and Lexus are Toyota you have no rebuttle on that so give it up. And as I look to the site and every where in here I see no option to upgrade the Subaru audio. By the way, my Scion dealership is a Toyota dealership as well . I'm not sure if you know how to read but there are multiple Subaru dealerships that were blacklisted for marking up the prices. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...ight=blacklist <------ Thanks. I can get HID's for less than $500.

[chulooz]

Originally Posted by FR-S Dan

^^^True troll. You're trying to get a point across and it's not working. Turn on the signal lights of an FR-S and look at it from the front, then turn do the same with the BRZ. You're going to tell me they are the same? You must be blind. Scion and Lexus are Toyota you have no rebuttle on that so give it up. And as I look to the site and every where in here I see no option to upgrade the Subaru audio. By the way, my Scion dealership is a Toyota dealership as well . I'm not sure if you know how to read but there are multiple Subaru dealerships that were blacklisted for marking up the prices. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...ight=blacklist <------ Thanks. I can get HID's for less than $500.

Yeah ive been here years to troll some rookie... please make sure you buy the scion, youll fit in well.

[Damnquick]

I look at it this way.. what car suits you and your style.. Because that's all it's about..styling

You can go to damn near any dealership and get invoice pricing, it may take a few walks to the managers desk but it'll happen. Believe me, dealerships are built to move metal not to hoard cars. Most people are just too scared to ask.

As far as both of these cars go let me ask you this. Are you going to gut the car the day you get it? If so get the car that's the cheapest and with the least options..Scion FRS

Or are you going to mildly mod this thing till the next gotta have it car comes out, only to trade in your FRS/BRZ.
Do you think that the econo FRS w/o heated seats, NAV, HID's, Keyless entry, Dual zone climate control, lighted vanity mirrors, etc...etc.. will be worth as much as a Limited Model BRZ?

Do you really think you'll keep this car more than 5 years? The average for the US is 57months of ownership until they buy something else.

We all know buying and modding cars is never going to make you money, but at least spend it wisely where and when you can. The FRS has it's unique niche just like the BRZ, figure out which one suits you and go for it.
Personally I like the creature comforts of the BRZ Limited and will likely swing that way. I mean c'mon who doesn't like their ass all toasty warm in the middle of winter!!

[VADER]

Originally Posted by Damnquick

I mean c'mon who doesn't like their ass all toasty warm in the middle of winter!!

I live in FL, this is not a problem for me haha. Also FR-S is lighter than the BRZ and I dont need a huge piece of black plastic on my front bumper. FR-Society

Originally Posted by chulooz

Yeah ive been here years to troll some rookie... please make sure you buy the scion, youll fit in well.

Stereotypical jerk. Your true colors have finally came out, you just don't like Scion. That's fine with me. Thanks for confirming my assumptions.

[Damnquick]

I live in FL, this is not a problem for me haha. Also FR-S is lighter than the BRZ and I dont need a huge piece of black plastic on my front bumper. FR-Society

FRS 2,758 LBS/2806 lbs Manual/auto
BRZ Premium: 2,762 lbs/2,809 lbs Manual/Auto
BRZ Limited: 2,776 lbs/2,822 lbs Manual/Auto

LOLZ @ the weight difference. 18lbs...really. Takes approx 100 lb's to knock a tenth in the 1/4. Same theory applies to other motorsports as well.

Exterior styling is definitely different and that's a valid point. Also it's a good reason to put better aero gear on the car as well. Stock is lame imho.

[VADER]

Every lb helps! haha and I'd rather swap out headlights than an entire front bumper any day!

[Spaceywilly]

Originally Posted by FR-S Dan

Every lb helps! haha and I'd rather swap out headlights than an entire front bumper any day!

Really? The bumper is probably 8 bolts and a bunch of plastic clips. Shouldn't take more than a few hours to swap. To swap the headlight housings you'll have to install ballasts, levelling motors, and all the interior switch work to control them. Swapping the headlights is most definitely more involved than swapping the bumper.

[Allch Chcar]

Chulooz, please stop feeding the newbies like they're trolls.

The FRS frontend is more popular. I still think the BRZ front end is better. Then again I liked the Mazda "smiley face" frontend.

Originally Posted by FR-S Dan

I live in FL, this is not a problem for me haha. Also FR-S is lighter than the BRZ and I dont need a huge piece of black plastic on my front bumper. FR-Society



Stereotypical jerk. Your true colors have finally came out, you just don't like Scion. That's fine with me. Thanks for confirming my assumptions.

If you can't appreciate criticism, you will not enjoy being here.

[VADER]

Originally Posted by Spaceywilly

Really? The bumper is probably 8 bolts and a bunch of plastic clips. Shouldn't take more than a few hours to swap. To swap the headlight housings you'll have to install ballasts, levelling motors, and all the interior switch work to control them. Swapping the headlights is most definitely more involved than swapping the bumper.

I meant cost-wise $$$