Epic Chris Harris GT-86 / FR-S Review! -- "This is the car I've been waiting for" - Page 10 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

2fast4you · 02-09-2012, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by switchlanez

Inline w/ what OrbitalEllipse said above, it's a hybrid of mid-low and mid-high spec so no point in comparing with other specs. It's its own spec. Which, at this point, is not definitive enough to determine if LSD will come standard.

It'll be standard as confirmed by MotoIQ, and a few of the reviews if I remember correctly; the Torsen is an inexpensive OEM solution and an off-the-shelf part at Subaru. Scion will not be making any changes to the drivetrain from what has been shown already.

switchlanez · 02-09-2012, 03:35 AM

^Cool story bro.

OrbitalEllipses · 02-09-2012, 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by 2fast4you

It'll be standard as confirmed by MotoIQ, and a few of the reviews if I remember correctly; the Torsen is an inexpensive OEM solution and an off-the-shelf part at Subaru. Scion will not be making any changes to the drivetrain from what has been shown already.

IIRC reports stated that the rear diff was a Toyota sourced unit. Furthermore, Subaru does not have off the shelf Torsen diffs. They do have VLSD units though.

2fast4you · 02-09-2012, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

IIRC reports stated that the rear diff was a Toyota sourced unit. Furthermore, Subaru does not have off the shelf Torsen diffs. They do have VLSD units though.

The Toyota sourced units are Torsen T-2 (JTEKT Torsen is part of the Toyota Group) used in the IS, RAV4, Supra, and many JDM Toyota vehicles. The WRX STI has been equipped with the Torsen on the front diff since 2005, and the rear since 2007.

Also... it is confirmed the 86/BRZ/FR-S will have Torsen T-2 units on their Wiki page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torsen

CSSM · 02-09-2012, 03:58 AM

I watched it 1 time for each of my 5 pairs of speakers/headphones

Great review and great video. Definitely bookmarked for me to watch a hundreds of times more

Streetice · 02-09-2012, 04:09 AM

Loved that sound coming out the pips dosent sound faked out and thats what I want.

The Drive channel is getting all the cool stuff in my opion.

switchlanez · 02-09-2012, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by 2fast4you

Also... it is confirmed the 86/BRZ/FR-S will have Torsen T-2 units on their Wiki page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torsen

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Originally Posted by Wikipedia

Torsen applications

Rear axle only

Toyota 86 2013 (Launching in the Spring of 2012, as a 2013 model)
Subaru BRZ 2013 (Launching in the Spring of 2012, as a 2013 model)
Scion FR-S 2013 (Launching in the Spring of 2012, as a 2013 model)

Well there you go. But who has access to edit Wikipedia entries?

faz1 · 02-09-2012, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Capt Canuck

Wow! Way to tag the crap outta this for the page views, haha.

Entertaining video indeed... just remember folks this man can drive... don't everyone go flying into your local ditches trying to be like Chris Harris in that GT86 video ;-)

Agreed. If you read Chris's comments on www.pistonheads.com that go with the video he says the GT86 is not an easy car to drift (even though he makes it look easy!).

frusciantrix · 02-09-2012, 08:10 AM

That's why they will offer a mechanical slip differential as an option. For the drifters and racers.

Afghan Vet · 02-09-2012, 08:34 AM

Fantastic video - most imformative so far, and the most fun (and in English

) This thread has been very imformative as well. Thanks for the posting.

lordtakuban · 02-09-2012, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by CarJacked-Aaron

nope, he is pronouncing it correctly. The car is not nicknamed the "eighty-six" in Japanese, it is referred to what would be "eight-six" in English. In other words, "hachi-roku".
...

You might have misread my post

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I notice he mis-pronounced the 86 (hint: if it was eighty-six, it would be called Hachi-Ju-Roku not Hachi-Roku)...

He pronounced it as "eighty-six" when he should have said "eight-six". Unless you mean that this new model is being called the "GT Eighty-Six"? I have not read or heard that anywhere, but you never know.

Hanzo · 02-09-2012, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Ryephile

The badge of the car he drove was "Toyota". Chris Harris isn't one to pander to politics between automakers, he's only going to tell you how it drives.

Those of us here on the forum know more of the back-story than all of the media combined and know where specific responsibilities lie; don't read too much [or anything] into Harris' lack of tedious in-depth vehicular development coverage.

I'm not talking about Chris Harris, I'm talking about all the props. people give to Toyota in this thread.

Hanzo · 02-09-2012, 09:15 AM

This is from Subaru's press release in the US:
"A standard TORSEN® limited-slip differential helps the inside wheel maintain traction during hard cornering."

http://media.subaru.com/index.php?s=43&item=286

This is from Scion's press release in the US:
"The power is put to the pavement via a standard Torsen limited-slip differential."
http://pressroom.scion.com/releases/...conference.htm

frusciantrix · 02-09-2012, 09:33 AM

It does have a Torsen LSD or what are you trying to say?

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frusciantrix Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: Mini R56 JCW Location: Germany Posts: 44 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	That's why they will offer a mechanical slip differential as an option. For the drifters and racers.

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Afghan Vet Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: 2002 BMW 325i Location: North Carolina Posts: 29 Thanks: 8 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Fantastic video - most imformative so far, and the most fun (and in English ) This thread has been very imformative as well. Thanks for the posting.

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