Borla UEL Header - Pics / Videos / Dynos - FT-86 SpeedFactory Review

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Originally Posted by FR-S Matt

Haha, can't wait to hear it. I know it's going to be that perfect deep tone without being overbearing, but still really loud. Cats are so good at taming down that aggressiveness headers add.

This is exactly why I chose the catted front pipe and resonated Catback. Headers sound awesome with these setups but can get straight up obnoxious with no cats and non res Catback.

[zohare]

Originally Posted by FT-86 SpeedFactory

Guys,



Thanks everyone!
-Yo

Thanks for the response. Not even looking full OE catback, just axleback would be nice, probably going to be raspy, but to get an idea. It's two bolts and some hangers. I understand time limitations. Didn't mean to come across as a ****.

[FT-86 SpeedFactory]

Catted Front Pipe video.

Parts list:
Borla UEL Headers
Perrin Over Pipe
Invidia Catted Front Pipe
FT-86 SpeedFactory V1

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Og7l6ueciuI"]Borla UEL Header with Invidia Catted Front Pipe & FT-86 V1 Exhaust - Scion FRS and Subaru BRZ - YouTube[/ame]

[Dimman]

Originally Posted by Simmons

This is why I went with UEL, should be more TQ down lower for AutoX.



Simmons

Why?

[OrbitalEllipses]

There's no denying that sounds like a Subaru.

[white devil]

I can't wait for mine!! Should sound crazy with the SRT headerback setup....

[AlvinT@Borla]

Originally Posted by FR-S Matt

The JDL header will also last a lot longer... Borla's header does not fall under their warranty. You get what you pay for. I'm going to wait and see Nameless/JDL's header, mainly looking at JDL's UEL header.

I thought I'd add clarification on our Borla UEL Header (PN-17284). The materials and fabrication techniques we incorporate are the result of over 30-years manufacturing successful products for the automotive aftermarket industry. We don't publicly share our R&D process online but I will say we fabricated multiple UEL headers in our development process including Dynojet dynamometer, flow-bench, and sound evalutions. Our process for the FR-S/BRZ is no different than any Borla R&D vehicle from the FordGT to the Shelby1000... We tailor each part to the vehicle with the same attention to detail.

Our production facility in Johnson City,TN capabilities include the ability and capacity to mandrel-bend single-piece austenitic stainless steel, minimizing welding joints for a stronger design. While our mandrel-bending is computer controlled for consistency, our welding is hand finshed. We've incorporated our successful multiflex-joint design (from the 2.5L STI header, PN-17217) to combat known vibrations in the boxer engine. This is an important design element that is needed should you keep it stock or upgrade to a high-performance tune.

The 17284 header is covered by our limited Million-Mile-Warranty.

Thanks for your interest in Borla!

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Originally Posted by AlvinT@Borla

I thought I'd add clarification on our Borla UEL Header (PN-17284). The materials and fabrication techniques we incorporate are the result of over 30-years manufacturing successful products for the automotive aftermarket industry. We don't publicly share our R&D process online but I will say we fabricated multiple UEL headers in our development process including Dynojet dynamometer, flow-bench, and sound evalutions. Our process for the FR-S/BRZ is no different than any Borla R&D vehicle from the FordGT to the Shelby1000... We tailor each part to the vehicle with the same attention to detail.

Our production facility in Johnson City,TN capabilities include the ability and capacity to mandrel-bend single-piece austenitic stainless steel, minimizing welding joints for a stronger design. While our mandrel-bending is computer controlled for consistency, our welding is hand finshed. We've incorporated our successful multiflex-joint design (from the 2.5L STI header, PN-17217) to combat known vibrations in the boxer engine. This is an important design element that is needed should you keep it stock or upgrade to a high-performance tune.

The 17284 header is covered by our limited Million-Mile-Warranty.

Thanks for your interest in Borla!

Originally Posted by FR-S Matt

You do realize Borla writes that message on like half their products to make you think it falls under their warranty? Read the fine print.

Sorry to go off topic so much, this thread is about the Borla UEL header, it does sound amazing, and I hope I am proven wrong about everything I've said. This header does sound amazing and I am sure it will work out well for anyone who buys it from FT-86 Speedfactory.

...Off to a decent start...

[n2oinferno]

Originally Posted by AlvinT@Borla

The 17284 header is covered by our limited Million-Mile-Warranty.

I have to ask, and I swear I'm not trying to troll. I understand warranties like this are basically similar to a lifetime warranty, since most people never put a million miles on anything.

But let's say you had a customer call up and could verify that he did, in fact, put 1,000,001 miles on the product and then it failed. Would Customer Service have to be like "Sorry, it's out of warranty now!"?

[FR-S Matt]

Originally Posted by AlvinT@Borla

I thought I'd add clarification on our Borla UEL Header (PN-17284). The materials and fabrication techniques we incorporate are the result of over 30-years manufacturing successful products for the automotive aftermarket industry. We don't publicly share our R&D process online but I will say we fabricated multiple UEL headers in our development process including Dynojet dynamometer, flow-bench, and sound evalutions. Our process for the FR-S/BRZ is no different than any Borla R&D vehicle from the FordGT to the Shelby1000... We tailor each part to the vehicle with the same attention to detail.

Our production facility in Johnson City,TN capabilities include the ability and capacity to mandrel-bend single-piece austenitic stainless steel, minimizing welding joints for a stronger design. While our mandrel-bending is computer controlled for consistency, our welding is hand finshed. We've incorporated our successful multiflex-joint design (from the 2.5L STI header, PN-17217) to combat known vibrations in the boxer engine. This is an important design element that is needed should you keep it stock or upgrade to a high-performance tune.

The 17284 header is covered by our limited Million-Mile-Warranty.

Thanks for your interest in Borla!

Certain sites have posted that the header does not fall under the warranty, but that clears it up for potential buyers. Thanks for that Alvin.

By no means am I questioning Borla's quality. I know of their track record with my '02 Camaro SS. It's a little early to tell how the other headers like JDL's EL and UEL will perform as well as Nameless Tri-Stepped Longtube header.

I understand the R&D process is usually behind closed doors for a massive corporation. These small exhaust shops have no problem explaining what they're working on, what stage they are in with the headers, and giving reasons why they did what they did. When you put Borla's collector in the UEL next to JDL's, you see quite a difference. Everything is hand made by these shops, including the mandrel bends. When you're purchasing a header, it's good to know as many details as possible even if you don't completely understand all the technical details. Plus, I like supporting small businesses with products made in the USA. (Yes, Borla is made in the USA as well too)

The flex joint design will be used in the other headers as well. It's good to know that people can buy the Borla UEL header though with a piece of mind. I do absolutely love the sound the Borla UEL produces. I haven't taken it off my list of potential headers, but I'm just waiting to see how the other headers perform or if they are similar.

When it comes down to it, Borla, Nameless, JDL, all products made in the USA. You really can't go wrong. Borla has always been a strong contender in several cars.

[Dimman]

Originally Posted by AlvinT@Borla

I thought I'd add clarification on our Borla UEL Header (PN-17284). The materials and fabrication techniques we incorporate are the result of over 30-years manufacturing successful products for the automotive aftermarket industry. We don't publicly share our R&D process online but I will say we fabricated multiple UEL headers in our development process including Dynojet dynamometer, flow-bench, and sound evalutions. Our process for the FR-S/BRZ is no different than any Borla R&D vehicle from the FordGT to the Shelby1000... We tailor each part to the vehicle with the same attention to detail.

Our production facility in Johnson City,TN capabilities include the ability and capacity to mandrel-bend single-piece austenitic stainless steel, minimizing welding joints for a stronger design. While our mandrel-bending is computer controlled for consistency, our welding is hand finshed. We've incorporated our successful multiflex-joint design (from the 2.5L STI header, PN-17217) to combat known vibrations in the boxer engine. This is an important design element that is needed should you keep it stock or upgrade to a high-performance tune.

The 17284 header is covered by our limited Million-Mile-Warranty.

Thanks for your interest in Borla!

Why don't you take advantage of this communication format we offer, and stop feeding us stock PR responses?

You left out the part where your accounting department gave you a tiny budget, which is why the collector design is terrible and the MIG welds look like shit (albeit better than Perrin's catback). Nobody cares if they're 'hand finished' by jittery hands. Invest in a robot.

[AlvinT@Borla]

Thanks Matt. I believe options are great and you guys have many great choices for the FRS/BRZ. BTW, Borla EL Header (PN-17285) and XR-1 Mid-Pipe will be released later this month. With these releases Borla has more integrated options for your FR-S/BRZ in race headers, race mid-pipe, a catback, and exhaust diffuser..
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...t=26805&page=6

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Originally Posted by Dimman

Why don't you take advantage of this communication format we offer, and stop feeding us stock PR responses?

You left out the part where your accounting department gave you a tiny budget, which is why the collector design is terrible and the MIG welds look like shit (albeit better than Perrin's catback). Nobody cares if they're 'hand finished' by jittery hands. Invest in a robot.

No one is telling you to purchase it dude.

[FT-86 SpeedFactory]

Another Update.

Borla UEL Header with the FT-86 V1 Exhaust, Invidia Catted Front Pipe, and Perrin Over Pipe
vs.
Borla UEL Header with the FT-86 V1 Exhaust, Invidia Catless Front Pipe, and Perrin Over Pipe

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKa2Am3EMgI"]Borla UEL Header Invidia Catted Front Pipe vs Invidia Catless Front Pipe - Scion FRS and Subaru BRZ - YouTube[/ame]