frs vs corvette (high planes raceway)

[sho220]

Originally Posted by fatoni

have you? i havent but according to what happens when professional drivers take them to the track or just about any piece of data can imply, the corvette is faster. i dont know why that seems to be a laughable conclusion. the vette goes faster, turns faster, and stops faster so i dont know where the frs would have an advantage.

On the internet! Duh!!!

[Unobtanium]

Originally Posted by Rejor11

I was reading through this forun and decided to share my experience.

Over at high planes, i played with a corvette. On the straights he was catching up to me, but on every corner i pulled away. However, due to his speed he was able to catch up eventually, to the point where i pointed him by so i could chase him for a change.

It was a lotta fun. It seemd we were both of equal skill level. Both our cars were bone stock at the time, minus brakes and he had better tires... so it was fun to see how well this car can keep up with corvettes on a twisty track.

Having driven corvettes at Spring Mountain, as well as the little test-drive I took in my former roommate's BRZ, there is no way that the stock BRZ/FR-S is keeping up with a C6. If you were to put some meat on the rims, though, and stick to a tight, technical course (parkinglot cone course where 40-50mph is the top speed?), I could indeed see it, but for any kind of street driving, or a course that goes faster than the top of 2nd gear? I highly doubt it.

One thing I will say is that the BRZ is a VERY! competent car, and I loved driving it. The suspension felt very similar to a C6 Z51 (now Grand Sport). Very! It's lighter, too, and you feel that. I love the car, and since I am not paid to race, I definitely plan on dumping my 370Z for one if Nissan won't buy it back (re-occurring brake issues)

[Unobtanium]

Originally Posted by chate

My last car was a C5, 2000, and after owning a vette for 3 years and having owned an FRS for over a year now, I can say the FRS is much more entertaining and has helped me learn much more about car control than the vette did

Best part about corvettes is the used market, you can get a c6 these days for about the same price as an FRS/BRZ- but I still think that as a DD the FRS makes me smile much more than the vette did

My former roommate owned a 2004 C5, and I owned a 2011 C6 Z06. He actually likes his BRZ more than the C5, and I can say that the BRZ reminds me very heavily of my C6Z, just not quite as crisp, which for the street is fine. They really are leagues apart, but the BRZ echoed many things my Z06 did, and I really really really like that little car. It feels like a "daily thrashable Z06" to me. A car I can redline repeatedly in several gears without fear of jail time, lol. The driving dynamics are amazing in the BRZ. Dunno about the FRS, haven't driven one.

[Rejor11]

Hah. Wow.

I guess people didnt read the part where i said we were at about equal skill level? At least thats how i felt it was.

The guy and i talked afterwards. He had as much fun as i did, although he was pissed at himself for not being able to pass me more easily.

My head is not "in the sky". I know that with a proper driver, a corvette is gonna slap me on my ass and run me over.

But i guess i should keep my fun stories to myself from now on, lest I am ridiculed for thinking my car can beat anything out there with an equally skilled driver.

Well, whatever. I guess i am a retard as well since "winning" or "arguing" about anything over a forum still makes everyone involved a tard. :p lil

[Unobtanium]

Originally Posted by Rejor11

Hah. Wow.

I guess people didnt read the part where i said we were at about equal skill level? At least thats how i felt it was.

The guy and i talked afterwards. He had as much fun as i did, although he was pissed at himself for not being able to pass me more easily.

My head is not "in the sky". I know that with a proper driver, a corvette is gonna slap me on my ass and run me over.

But i guess i should keep my fun stories to myself from now on, lest I am ridiculed for thinking my car can beat anything out there with an equally skilled driver.

Well, whatever. I guess i am a retard as well since "winning" or "arguing" about anything over a forum still makes everyone involved a tard. :p lil

Never said that, simply made an observation about the two cars involved, having raced corvettes on-track (Z06, ZR1, Grand Sport), and piddled around in a BRZ on the street. Good on you for the fun you had.

That said, I mixed it up with an S2K the other night on my 370Z Sport/Track. The S2000 was lowered it looked like, and the driver was using the balance of the car, possibly his tires, and definitely weight/suspension to just ham-fist his way through the corners, while I was having to apply some serious art to corner entry and make SURE of my apexes just to keep up in my heavy POS. He was probably way down on power, but he always managed to barely pull on me after a series of corners. The BRZ likely will take some serious skill to "beat" even in a more powerful vehicle.

[schlomo]

^ It sounds like you really made a mistake buying that 370z judging by your posts in the "FR-S/BRZ vs" subforum!

[Celica00]

Originally Posted by fatoni

have you? i havent but according to what happens when professional drivers take them to the track or just about any piece of data can imply, the corvette is faster. i dont know why that seems to be a laughable conclusion. the vette goes faster, turns faster, and stops faster so i dont know where the frs would have an advantage.

^^^ one bench racer to rule them all

[Mikem53]

Originally Posted by Unobtanium

My former roommate owned a 2004 C5, and I owned a 2011 C6 Z06. He actually likes his BRZ more than the C5, and I can say that the BRZ reminds me very heavily of my C6Z, just not quite as crisp, which for the street is fine. They really are leagues apart, but the BRZ echoed many things my Z06 did, and I really really really like that little car. It feels like a "daily thrashable Z06" to me. A car I can redline repeatedly in several gears without fear of jail time, lol. The driving dynamics are amazing in the BRZ. Dunno about the FRS, haven't driven one.

Coming from an 08 C6 w Z51, NPP, 04 Z06 and 2 others before them. andinto the FRS.. The FRS reminds me of the Z06 in terms of feedback and visceral feel.. The vettes were quicker for sure and had serious grip to the limit.. The Z06 was the first car I owned that I didn't want to modify.. Was so good right out of the box.. But the C5 with its overhangs and interior by fisher price just put me off for everyday use.. The C6 was more refined and faster... But lacked the excitement the Z provided .. In terms of regular driving..
The FRS is such a great blend of handling and power.. Has such great balance for everyday driving fun.. I miss the blasts to 60 with the vette.. Truly wakes you up.. But I hated the big tires.. The trammel from crowns in the road.. The corners always felt heavy in the vettes.. But they are very capable cars.. And great hwy cruisers.. The FRS is more enjoyable to me.. Cause I get to use its limits all the time.. And not worry about breaking too many laws..

[Steve]

for the haters.

1. they are both amateur drivers, corvette driver obviously wasn't pushing it to the limits or even close...

2. the corvette is probably a c5 and did pass the 86 eventually...

just because the corvette destroys the 86 on paper doesn't mean its BS. the 86 is much easier to drive at the limits and chances are the corvette driver was even more of an amateur driver.

story is believable. glad you had enjoyed yourself.

[R3d]

Originally Posted by thill

Agreed they look awesome.. But I would take a turbo 911 all day long if money is not an object in this thread.

Pfff get an ariel atom V8 !!

ohhh right you cant drive it in the street in canada lol

[DIF]

Originally Posted by Rejor11

It was an older one, 2004 model i believe

When you say an older one I instantly thought of a C2, a C3 or even a C4 but never in my mind did the year 2004 pop up.