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Old 06-10-2013, 06:57 PM   #827
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Old 06-10-2013, 09:56 PM   #828
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Looks like its on the bottle. I talked to done people about adding water meth or nitrous to a pd supercharger they said it responds very well. I might go water meth but probably not going nitrous on anything not built for it. To risky to have a negative effect on my wallet for 5 sec of fun.

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Looks like its on the bottle. I talked to done people about adding water meth or nitrous to a pd supercharger they said it responds very well. I might go water meth but probably not going nitrous on anything not built for it. To risky to have a negative effect on my wallet for 5 sec of fun.

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Old 06-10-2013, 10:22 PM   #830
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Looks like its on the bottle. I talked to done people about adding water meth or nitrous to a pd supercharger they said it responds very well. I might go water meth but probably not going nitrous on anything not built for it. To risky to have a negative effect on my wallet for 5 sec of fun.

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Interested in this too. I don't have access to E85 and will be looking for more power.
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Old 06-10-2013, 10:29 PM   #831
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Interested in this too. I don't have access to E85 and will be looking for more power.
I was looking to keep it without an intercooler run e85, water meth, oil cooler, koyorad radiator and pray the thermometer doesn't tell me to pony up the cash to inter cool it.

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Old 06-10-2013, 10:43 PM   #832
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I was looking to keep it without an intercooler run e85, water meth, oil cooler, koyorad radiator and pray the thermometer doesn't tell me to pony up the cash to inter cool it.

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I think it would be cheaper to run their IC kit.

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I think it would be cheaper to run their IC kit.

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Yeah I have no delusions with that route being anywhere close to cheap. But it is a nice way to slowly add things as the newness starts to wear off. I will be as excited as a 9 year old who actually got the pony when I get the supercharger on the car. I think for a few months it will be new and cool and once I get board I can do an upgrade and just keep going like that for a few seasons.

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FYI---do NOT run a wet nitrous+fuel charge before a water/air intercooler. Run wet nitrous+fuel after the intercooler. Dry is ok, but still questionable. The temp drop is enough to freeze the water in the cooler.
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Listen to Subzero, he knows all about freezing things.
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Hey there. Would you mind posting a close pic of the parts list for the kit? Hard to make everything out. Thx.
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Hey there. Would you mind posting a close pic of the parts list for the kit? Hard to make everything out. Thx.
Not sure if i have one. let me check. Nothing amazing. Just some longer hoses, new bolts. ETC. Off the shelf belt so you can replace it anywhere ( if the need arises)
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FYI---do NOT run a wet nitrous+fuel charge before a water/air intercooler. Run wet nitrous+fuel after the intercooler. Dry is ok, but still questionable. The temp drop is enough to freeze the water in the cooler.
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Wouldn't you want to run the nitrous+fuel injectors in the intake manifold runners, approximately where the port injectors are? That way you get an even dispersal to each cylinder?


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upstream of the SC is easier as you only need one nozzle and it helps lower the IAT's and SC efficiency, the way they used to inject methanol infront of turbo chargers to offset the increase in temperature during the pressure multiplication.
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Before this strays---my point was not to run a wet nitrous shot before a laminova intercooler. Nitrous and fuel would pool before the intercooler, and clog up the show. Just nitrous could build up ice in the intercooler housing as the condensation freezes, which isn't any better. This would block the airflow around the laminova fins.


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You'll quickly enter the engineering realm looking for more powa with all of these little tricks. I'd recommend port nitrous with the intercooler, but the problem is metering a small amount of nitrous through a port setup. Non-intercooled should be ok with a SMALL fogger shot before the blower.

I'm still cautious about a wet shot upstream of the blower because you can flood the blower with fuel and nitrous, potentially hydrolocking it with an explosive combination. The internal compression ratio of the supercharger would also exacerbate this. Same issue with water/meth, IMO.

Old GM experiments on 2 stroke diesels had issues with rusting the rotors with water/meth and hosing up the clearances inside the blower from said rust. Nitrous use could do the same because of condensation.

Nitrous with E85 might be too much of a good thing. E85 hates the cold, but you've got intake heat from the supercharger to counter the temp drop from the nitrous. See the can of worms, growing bigger?

We could go around in circles with this in its own thread . My number one suggestion is to not get greedy!

blower, intercooler-------port nitrous (150 is the smallest you could run)
blower, non-intercooled--fogger (30-50 shot would be safe.)


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