BRZ and FR-S Sales Numbers Thread

[Gopherboy6956]

Originally Posted by Jaylyons1

I have to disagree. For me the big reason to get the BRZ is the HID's and Nav. You pay $1k and get features that normally cost an additional $2500. Plus the interior materials look way better, but that's an opinion and others may not agree. It seems to make all the sense in the world to me unless you plan on stripping the car or can't find a BRZ(which has been a problem unfortunately).

I will say the FR-S bumper has grown on me, but I still do prefer the BRZ styling. I worry how the FR-S will hold up in years to come. (Think riced out honda's with bumpers hanging off).

Well, however the FR-S holds up, the BRZ will hold up. There's no difference between how they are made... They are made in the same factory on the same line lol.

[Jaylyons1]

Doubtful. Just because a car is made on the same line does not mean it is the same car. The twins are much more similar, but I do see the FR-S front end having more cosmetic issues than the BRZ. Even if its just more paint chips since there is more paint to be chipped.

Or it may just be in my head in the end. I still see Scion as the original XB and those are barely a decade old and falling apart nowadays.

[thill]

Originally Posted by Gopherboy6956

Well, however the FR-S holds up, the BRZ will hold up. There's no difference between how they are made... They are made in the same factory on the same line lol.

This. Historically speaking both Subaru and Toyota make reliable vehicles that typically have good resale value.

Now if Chrysler and VW came together to make a sports car I would be worried

[Gopherboy6956]

Originally Posted by Jaylyons1

Doubtful. Just because a car is made on the same line does not mean it is the same car. The twins are much more similar, but I do see the FR-S front end having more cosmetic issues than the BRZ. Even if its just more paint chips since there is more paint to be chipped.

Or it may just be in my head in the end. I still see Scion as the original XB and those are barely a decade old and falling apart nowadays.

I understand what you're saying, and i agree on the scion aspect - i see them as a lower quality brand.

That being said - the care ARE IDENTICIAL in all practical aspects. All main part numbers are exaclty the same, the front bumpers are made from the same materials, the same way, just in different shapes. The paint is the exact same quality, just a different color.

If you look at everything "different" about the cars - it's all end of the line items - interior items, badges, lights and stuff. the Core of the car is EXACTLY the same. (with the exception of the suspension rates)

See this video - this is a directly off the Line ceremony. Both cars are made on the same line - just in different runs. and Toyota has the bulk of production for the first few years.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYXOIaEeAlw"]FHI Started Production of the Subaru BRZ and Toyota 86 - YouTube[/ame]

[Jaylyons1]

Originally Posted by Gopherboy6956

I understand what you're saying, and i agree on the scion aspect - i see them as a lower quality brand.

That being said - the care ARE IDENTICIAL in all practical aspects. All main part numbers are exaclty the same, the front bumpers are made from the same materials, the same way, just in different shapes. The paint is the exact same quality, just a different color.

If you look at everything "different" about the cars - it's all end of the line items - interior items, badges, lights and stuff. the Core of the car is EXACTLY the same. (with the exception of the suspension rates)

See this video - this is a directly off the Line ceremony. Both cars are made on the same line - just in different runs. and Toyota has the bulk of production for the first few years.

I know they are the same. Researched the project for years. Like I said, its probably just in my head from seeing all the boxes rolling around.

[rice_classic]

It's all a matter of perspective. For instance, my "perspective" of Subarus is that they all come off the assembly line with a rainbow sticker on the back and a dog in the passenger seat. That's what I think about when I think Subaru and nothing about that lures me to a Subaru showroom. However I am fully aware that perspective is inaccurate and not "based in reality" but perception is perception nonetheless.

Meanwhile, my good friend races a pretty badass STI and while I think of "STI" I think "go-fast" but I could be at the racetrack and hear the word "Subaru" and still the first thought in my head is a forest-green Outback with a bike rack and an Obama sticker on the back.

And I too, think of toaster ovens whenever I hear the word "Scion".


But here we all are... in our ScionBarus and I don't think the irony is lost on the majority of us.


PS: To the OP, thanks for the May update! Good to see those strong sales figures.

[frsinpa]

Originally Posted by Spaceywilly

I usually check the sales results every month so I thought I would collect them all in one place. Here are the results so far and I will try to update it each month.

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Month      BRZ MTD     BRZ YTD     BRZ ALL     FRS MTD     FRS YTD     FRS ALL
May 12         271         271                      86          86
Jun 12         818        1089                    2684        2770
Jul 12         498        1587                    1649        4419
Aug 12         623        2210                    1913        6332
Sep 12         508        2718                    1133        7465
Oct 12         402        3120                    1107        8572  
Nov 12         527        3647                    1350        9922
Dec 12         497        4144                    1495       11417
Jan 13         463         463       4607         1443        1443      12860
Feb 13         420         883       5027         1369        2812      14229  
Mar 13         905        1788       5932         1828        4640      16057
Apr 13         812        2600       6744         1629        6269      17686
May 13         679        3279       7423         1937        8206      19623 


Wow - FRS really doing some big numbers. 1937 units for May was the highest monthly total since the launch.

Also, on a YTD basis the FR-S is outselling the BRZ by 2.5X. So for every 5 FRS's that are sold, 2 BRZs are sold.

[Brzetto]

The twins will never be super common but if they somehow do become common I get to call myself one of the original owner/fans. Like with gaming, I was doing it before it became popular.

[HotLeopardMama]

Toyubaru/Subayota hipsters? LOL

[Brzetto]

Originally Posted by HotLeopardMama

Toyubaru/Subayota hipsters? LOL

The new people will be posers, it's like when the RX-7 and Supra's last body style came out, only the hardcore people knew what they had but when 2001 rolled around every idiot in the world wanted a Supra because they thought they could turn it into this.

[TRD_86]

Originally Posted by frsinpa

Wow - FRS really doing some big numbers. 1937 units for May was the highest monthly total since the launch.

Also, on a YTD basis the FR-S is outselling the BRZ by 2.5X. So for every 5 FRS's that are sold, 2 BRZs are sold.

Is it in the US? does anyone know the data of total cars sold in California and Socal ? Just curious b/c the twin is growing fast as I see every where here in local streets within a year

[Muaddib]

There are 3 other frs within the 4 block radius. It is a fairly common car in the city that i live in.

[Mikem53]

Originally Posted by frsinpa

Wow - FRS really doing some big numbers. 1937 units for May was the highest monthly total since the launch.

Also, on a YTD basis the FR-S is outselling the BRZ by 2.5X. So for every 5 FRS's that are sold, 2 BRZs are sold.

You do know that Toyota purposely builds more FRS's than BRZ's right?

[frsinpa]

Excited to see what June brings.. any updates?