Convince me to wait on the 2014 model details

[shirker]

Originally Posted by BakaFT86

I'm waiting for the 14. I've been dreaming of buying this car since 2011. The 14 could have minor tweaks to it that fixes the first year issues they weren't aware of when they released the car. If you're in no rush why not wait?

Fixes are made throughout the '13 model year though, so unless you're buying an early production car (there probably aren't any still sitting around), the chances of a late production '13 car having more issues than an initial production '14 are slim to negligible.

The only reasons IMO to wait would be 1) new features and other changes beyond bug fixing 2) you can't find a car in the color with the options you like and 3) higher resale value.

But unless you plan on selling the car in the next several years, the higher resale value should be more than offset by the savings on a 2013 car right now. And as has been discussed ad infinitum, the 2014 changes (that we know of so far) aren't all that groundbreaking.

[shirker]

Originally Posted by DeeezNuuuts83

Or the second-gen 86. With the CAFE standards set to take effect soon, if you can wait even longer, then you might have yourself a 35-40 mpg 86 by then.

No need to wait, even. I already get 40 mpg on the highway.

[MY13FRS]

Fight your inner demons, nothing is worse than a indecisive man (or boy in your case).

On another note, buy it now because the car is still fresh, people are still gawking at it.

[Re_Invention]

What a funny thread...

I'm in a similar boat. Here's my 0.02 on the scenario:

-Being that the 2014 models are due out in a matter of months, it's absurd to NOT wait. What are you, 12? More money to save up for a larger down payment, more time to make up your mind, more time to buy aftermarket parts on potential group deal discount opportunities, etc. etc. etc. Many people have followed the car for 5+ years, some pulled the trigger right away, some pulled between then and now, and some are pulling it as you read this. If you're ASKING whether you should do it or not, you can definitely wait another 4 months. Or you're an impulsive person that needs e-support for your irrational, self-righteous way of life?

-Newer (i.e. better; this is somewhat arguable but trends (and common sense) are in its favor) standard features + possibility of unknown amenities. There's only one thing this forum as shown to know about the 2014 models, and that's something Scion released in a mass press junket. I'm not saying there'll be crazy revisions for 2014, but I'm not saying there won't. Simply: I don't know. And so far no one here has provided any factual evidence to support their opinions, either. So.. you have a couple of months to wait and everything to gain.. again, what are you, 12?

-Resale value and possibility of inventory clearance deal. I don't care what folks say, having the newer year WILL help you in residual value later on down the line [and to all the people saying they'll keep the car forever.. HAHAHA . How many folks kept their original AE86? Their original MR2? Their original Honda S2000? Their original x,y,z reasonably priced sport(y) car]. Mileage plays a factor, yes, but that's introducing a newer variable and not pertinent to this discussion. Apples for apples, 2014 > value than 2013. Personally, I don't believe you'll get enough % off a 2013 model to warrant the residual (reversion?) difference between the two models, Scion's pure pricing seems pretty hard-lined and the cars are moving decently*. On the other hand, if you are willing to deal with the hassle (how much money is your time worth?) you can likely get a GOOD deal on a Subaru BRZ Premium at or less than invoice cost*. I've scoured truecar and see Premium's going for $1k less than an FRS at market value. Factor in expenses (fuel, plane ticket, hotel) and you'd still come out ahead with a higher spec car and fun road trip under you belt. But again, that depends on how much your time is worth. If I'm earning $300/hr, I wouldn't consider it. If I'm at $15/hr, sure.

*Demographic dependent

Folks mentioned quality updates and revisions, so I won't go into that. Yes, they make changes in a rolling manner - no manufacture waits for the next model year to implement fixes. That's a poor business practice and will cost more in the long run. For profit companies don't like to lose money.

Why would you buy a 2013 model?
-You've finally saved up enough to "afford" payments. I'm not knocking on the younger and/or less financially 'set' folks on the board, hey, I applaud your commitment to the culture and your pride in being a gear head. But no financially savvy person buys, right now, on a whim when the newer model year is mere months away and there's no economic incentive to take a 2013. Disclaimer: I'm not saying you aren't successful but damned be it if didn't make a questionable decision.

-Emotional. This ties in with the above. Sure. You WANT it now. In the end it's just a car, however. If your happiness is tied to an external object, you should take inventory of what/who is important to your life and figure out what happiness means to you. Objects are transient phenomena, learn about the nonsubstantiality of life and find unshakable happiness :happy0180:. inb4 driving 'soul'

-You need a car, NOW. If your situation forces you to acquire a set of wheels to retain your quality of life - and you want an FR-S - then by all means, get a 2013 and be happy. It's a necessary purchase, in this case.

[Tujin]

Wait for the 2014 model to come out

buy a new 2013 model for cheaper

use difference to buy mods

win

[lazyluka]

We are about to get the release of the Toyota 86 RC here (official release tomorrow), but the website already works and you can paint parts of your car yellow or green.

So will 2014 see two new colors? Time will tell.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...464#post987464

[BentAnat]

Well, Do it like I did:
I ordered in December '12. Due to really bad supply in Namibia, I am still waiting for a production date. There's a good chance mine will be a '14 model, but without the excesive waiting list for one.
Differences to the '13? None. I still want it in what's known as Pearl White here (whiteout for the Scion buyers), and other than that it'll have one or two software issues sorted out, that every '13 can get as well.

In short: Order one, if it doesn't take long to get, you get a GREAT car earlier. If it takes long, you get a '14 model of a GREAT car.

[Carlitoz3]

I'd have to agree with waiting until the 2014s come out, then get a 2013 for a better price. Or get one now and trade in down the road forva 15-16??

[lionbacker54]

Originally Posted by dro

I was waiting for a discount and the touchscreen that will come standard (hopefully)

i would think that you'd have a better chance getting a discount on '13 models than '14.

a touchscreen is not that much to put in, maybe $400

i'd just get one now and enjoy the summer with it rather than wait until the fall for a 2014

[jaime3]

Originally Posted by BlueSTaR

Also, if you buy a 2013, you'll always have an "Original"

f*ck yeah! always go with the original.

[FV]

iono about if having a "original" is a plus. I don't see 2000 S2000s selling more because it was the first year.

[SixSpeed]

Originally Posted by dro

I am tired of driving a raggedy car, I have been waiting 6 months to buy this car. I feel like crap. I don't know if I can make it another month. Thinking about running to the dealership and buying the first fr-s I see. HELP!

I feel your pain dawg, I really do. I too am tired of driving a raggedy car, but most of these guys are right. Just wait till details of the '14 model come out. If you decide to get the '13 model then & there, then go for it. Don't dealerships have Model Year-End sales to off what's left of the current inventory? Who knows? You could get a 2013 FR-S for a little less than what it costs right now.

I hope they do step up a little more on the 2014 models, though. The 2014 Corolla was just revealed and it looks tempting to me, but this is just ONE side of the coin.

[chickdigger802]

well... 2014 should hopefully fix most of the little issues that people have with 13.

[Raven604]

U bai nao!