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Old 12-06-2011, 10:22 PM   #827
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You do see that literally the only difference in in the HVAC controls right? You also realize if Scion sold it like the GT86 that it would cost exactly as much as the BRZ right?

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Old 12-06-2011, 10:52 PM   #828
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You do see that literally the only difference in in the HVAC controls right? You also realize if Scion sold it like the GT86 that it would cost exactly as much as the BRZ right?

#sigh.
There is more different then the hvac controls, there is an obvious difference in the plastcs, and the 86 has the leather/alacantra on the dash and the doors as well. It doesn't bother me much, but lets not pretend there is no diff.
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Old 12-06-2011, 11:06 PM   #829
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yea the difference is one is high spec the other is low spec

people are complaining about this I`m not sure they know that anyone that gets the this is the striped down model it was even shown in the leak Japanese brochures. It makes prefect sense why the subie would be the high spec and the scion be the low spec in north america. Had the scion had the high spec stuff why even buy the MORE expensive subie and if the Scion was priced too high to make up for the high spec equipment then it would eat BRZ sales as well as go against Scion whole reasonable price car for young people shtick

less complaining and more waiting for the 1) the options list from scion and 2) just buy BRZ centre console and do a swap I`m sure someone will do this and there will be a DIY hell I know I`m gonna try this one day
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Old 12-06-2011, 11:32 PM   #830
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Because for me its a brand preference issue. I have had Toyota all my life.

Now they are forcing me to go another route. There are certain things I care about as standard.

Lights HID ( Help me see better)
GPS (Less Frustration) - and I love the phone intergrations on the toyotas over the knock offs
Back-up camera (less blind spots- some are better then others, I don't want to hit anyone and driving is a privilege)
Heat warmers its nice but not needed, but would love it. I live in the desert and its cold so yeah when its below freezing, I'm cold!

Factory warranty is so much easier on these things. The rest of the TRD I more then welcome the options! Tires exausts etc switches etc. But I don't want to change out an entire console just to fit the things I want in.

1-2k for safety, is something I'm all up for. If people want it on and the track and want to take it out, I rather have that. They are the ones that have the money or can drive better anyways. I rather people have a safer driving experience. Los Angeles doesn't need kids who think they can drive better causing the most accidents and complaining about old asian lady drivers or old drivers.

And the reason I'm complaining is cause Scion usually only has one trim. =/ I can only cross my fingers and wait for a different official announcement

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Old 12-06-2011, 11:50 PM   #831
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Why wouldn't scion have all the options available as subaru or the GT86. They're in it to make money too. They just start with a very base car for the buyer to expand on.
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Why wouldn't scion have all the options available as subaru or the GT86. They're in it to make money too. They just start with a very base car for the buyer to expand on.
You just made a redundant statement that has no inherent value, Mr. Matsuda.

Not many in or outside of Toyota/ Scion have an idea for options thus far...

I would suggest waiting until January 9th-22nd for the Detroit Auto Show for (maybe) the options list, MSRP, OEM accessories, and official sale date for the FR-S
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You just made a redundant statement that has no inherent value, Mr. Matsuda.

Not many in or outside of Toyota/ Scion have an idea for options thus far...

I would suggest waiting until January 9th-22nd for the Detroit Auto Show for (maybe) the options list, MSRP, OEM accessories, and official sale date for the FR-S
We'll see if I'm right soon enough.
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Old 12-07-2011, 10:25 AM   #834
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Why wouldn't scion have all the options available as subaru or the GT86. They're in it to make money too. They just start with a very base car for the buyer to expand on.
I'm not sure they'd have HIDs as just an option due to DOT testing/certification, but it's possible. I also doubt the auto CC (which is fine IMO). The seats I'd guess would be an option, same with foglights, wings, 37 different head units, etc.
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There is more different then the hvac controls, there is an obvious difference in the plastcs, and the 86 has the leather/alacantra on the dash and the doors as well. It doesn't bother me much, but lets not pretend there is no diff.
the plastics are the same.
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We'll see if I'm right soon enough.
Yes, we all will

Nah, I'm just playing. We all want a gargantuan amount of options to debut at NAIAS for everyone to fall into Scion's motto:

"Become one of us by becoming none of us"
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Do you guys think USA, would have that trim? Or would they strip alot of stuff down?
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Do you guys think USA, would have that trim? Or would they strip alot of stuff down?

Which trim? the leather/alacantra ? I doubt it ..doesn't mean you can't attempt to get it from overseas
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the plastics are the same.
Exactly. They wouldnt do as small a change as have a different plastic for each car. It would also cost the company and us a lot more HJs to have a different plastic or wrap in leather - A lot more than the difference in prices between cars.
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Exactly. They wouldnt do as small a change as have a different plastic for each car. It would also cost the company and us a lot more HJs to have a different plastic or wrap in leather - A lot more than the difference in prices between cars.
You can see where the differences are in the FR-S vs the GT (the Alcantara around the center console and door speakers)

Granted we don't know if this is 100% production pictured
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