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Old 06-04-2013, 02:57 PM   #729
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Love the vinyl on this car! And it has an appropriate hood.
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Old 06-04-2013, 07:20 PM   #730
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nevermind, *sigh*

Edit: That is some good looking vinyl+hood. I wonder if i could rig up an oil cooler in front of that scoop...
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Old 06-04-2013, 07:28 PM   #731
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Will see if I can grab weight etc today
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Old 06-05-2013, 04:07 AM   #732
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Old 06-05-2013, 04:22 AM   #733
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So it cooled down overnight so they could get to work on it today. Got to see them assemble the intercooler inside the manifold:



Figured out the pics finally Thanks for the help.
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Here it is in the air after the radiator for the intercooler was installed.

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Old 06-05-2013, 04:40 AM   #735
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NICE..you know what the IC weights in at? (total additional)
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1st picture is meant to be about the intercooler but it has 4 other chargers in that looks like the 150 variant, no clear picture of the intercooler setup.
2nd picture is just a rather cheezy picture of the car in the air with the supercharger acting like some japanese girl doing a scenery photo shoot, no picture of the heat exchanger showing where and how it was mounted/water lines routed.

Ohh, and no invites Although I didn't wake up until 2pm..
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Old 06-05-2013, 06:14 AM   #737
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NICE..you know what the IC weights in at? (total additional)
Will find out tomorrow when I go back to pick her up
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Old 06-05-2013, 07:13 AM   #738
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Do you know what the limit of the oem MAF setup is? The MAS looks very similar to the Denso unit used on my 08 XB and that was good for +120bhp. MAS voltage maxed at 3.9V stock and 4.5V at 6psi. IIRC that was about 240 g/s? I can check some data logs to be sure.

Just curious how far I can go on the MAF before resorting to less accurate speed density.
Stock it's scale up to 280g/s at 5.0v I see just over 4v 140g/s with tune, front pipe and axle back. Stock rom has a max maf table that is limited to 200g/s in stock form. There should be enough room at least for the low boost setup with header etc on the stock maf housing but there won't be much headroom after that i don't think.

Can anyone chime in on if the base maps are speed density or maf based?
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i believe that is left to the tuner and what they prefer.
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Old 06-05-2013, 08:55 AM   #740
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Stock it's scale up to 280g/s at 5.0v I see just over 4v 140g/s with tune, front pipe and axle back. Stock rom has a max maf table that is limited to 200g/s in stock form. There should be enough room at least for the low boost setup with header etc on the stock maf housing but there won't be much headroom after that i don't think.

Can anyone chime in on if the base maps are speed density or maf based?
I'm pretty sure you can just increase the intake piping and rescale the MAF to move as much air as you want. That's why running a full intake without a tune has the potential to be disasterous.

As for the fuel maps, traditionally Subaru maps are Load vs RPM, with Load calculated: Load = (total g/s airflow) / (rpm) * (60)

g/s is derived from MAF voltage then adjusted by the scaling. So you can, in theory, bump up to a 4" intake and all you'd have to do is adjust the scaling to get the appropriate g/s.
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g/s is derived from MAF voltage then adjusted by the scaling. So you can, in theory, bump up to a 4" intake and all you'd have to do is adjust the scaling to get the appropriate g/s.
.. and potentially suffer low-end MAF resolution problems.
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Old 06-05-2013, 09:05 AM   #742
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.. and potentially suffer low-end MAF resolution problems.
The same resolution problems that just about every other MAF based vehicle suffers from. We're all limited to a 5v signal to determine total air flow, yet there are quite a few people using that same 5 volts to measure air for a whole lot more power than anyone is making in an 86...
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