Scion FR-S Manager hopes to introduce new FR-S variant every year

[Lasse]

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

I like modifying vehicles

I like new car warranties more.

Yours new car warranty doesn't last forever you know. When TRD-spec scion comes out warranty can be gone already.

Besides, in europe toyota did offer TTE SC-kit for few toyotas and those kit's didn't avoid warranty. Could be same for scion?

[JDLM]

Originally Posted by Lasse

Yours new car warranty doesn't last forever you know. When TRD-spec scion comes out warranty can be gone already.

Besides, in europe toyota did offer TTE SC-kit for few toyotas and those kit's didn't avoid warranty. Could be same for scion?

The tC had a SC option w/ factory backing

[ashtray]

I'm going for a first year model. Toyota has been dangling this FT86 concept in front of us for years - if you wait for their "special" models, it could be 2-3 years. They're not so good at the "every year" thing until they prove they can do it. The car is still 5-6 months away!

There's also the chance of losing some cool options in following years. I got a 2003 WRX. In 2004, they changed the seats. They look ugly and cheaper. Love my '03 seats. For all we know they could take away the red stitching, or drop the limited model, etc.

I wouldn't expect a sedan or droptop version too soon.

If Toyota offers a supercharged version, or some fancy TRD options, Subaru will do something similar. Remember Subaru is making ALL these cars. Toyota will literally hand them build specs for any model changes. Wouldn't be tough for Subaru to offer those options on their car. I'm guessing Subaru will share model changes with Toyota. I could see a lot more variations if Toyota were building their own.

Good thing is by next May we should probably already know what the first special release will be, before any of the early adopters buy the first model.

[Variant]

Maybe I'm reading it to it wrong, but to me it sounds like this.

2012: FR-S Coupe
2013: FR-S Super Charged (or w/e)
2014: FR-S Convertible
2015: FR-S Super Charged (or w/e) Convertible
2016: FR-S Coupe Refresh
2017: FR-S Convertible Refresh
2018: Nothing
2019: New FR-S Coupe

ect ect ec yada yada yada

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by Quentin

I read. I disagree with your claim that Scion is deliberately screwing the early adopters.

I'd agree. I will say though that they are putting doubts in the minds of early adopters who wish a feature or two were available but aren't (which we don't know until we have full details).

For example, if I wanted an FR-S but wanted heated seats and alcantara, which if we figure 22k base + 2k seats would be 24k (providing reasoning for not going with the est 27k brz limited) and I couldn't get that, what should I do? Wait for a RS that might have it? Buy it and source the seats and such seperately, or spend more for the BRZ limited? I'd probably go with the spend more on the BRZ limited method because I'm lazy. But some will wait.. and wait.. and maybe scion will release it.. maybe not. During that waiting though (and especially if a RS comes out with the only differences being say automatic CC and monkey butt paintjob) that person's patience and opinion of Scion will be tested..

I'd much rather have Scion offer the base car year one with all the options year one. I do NOT see any benefit to this release series stuff.

[madfast]

being that most of the RS cars are just exclusive paint and body kits, or springs and exhaust, interior bits, etc. im ok with the idea of these kind of RS cars. but anything that greatly affects how the car drives, must be offered as an option to everyone else! besides minor yearly revisions to the base car, they should seriously concentrate on yearly PARTS releases. parts that they didnt want to put on the base car due to cost. offer them as options year after year. this way you can sell to both new car buyers, and those who already bought the car and want to update it as much as you can.

[#87]

This isn't an iPod, I can't buy a new one every year :\

[Caliban]

I am sorry, but these factory backed accessories/performance parts (or should i say ricer parts) are usually wack anyway..

[cassidy0998]

Originally Posted by bambbrose

A lot of you guys act like we don't modify our cars.

If you get the first year model, and a better version comes out next year, go down to the dealer and buy the parts you want to upgrade. We are enthusiasts are we not?

It's easy to say that when you own a 1994 Supra (I know because I own one as well)


But I want this car to be.... a new car... I'm not about to start gutting it and modding it left and right. I want a fun daily driver. That's reliable. And has a warranty.

[Matador]

The IS-F has had improvements most years since it's inception. The debut car is still great. It doesn't really have anything that you cant do to the first gen (new dash display maybe the exception).

They debuted in 2007, added an LSD for 2010, then retuned the steering and suspension for 2011, then upgraded the suspension again for the '12 MY along with the interior. I don't think many early adopters to the IS-F are grumbling.

[madfast]

Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1

The IS-F has had improvements most years since it's inception. The debut car is still great. It doesn't really have anything that you cant do to the first gen (new dash display maybe the exception).

They debuted in 2007, added an LSD for 2010, then retuned the steering and suspension for 2011, then upgraded the suspension again for the '12 MY along with the interior. I don't think many early adopters to the IS-F are grumbling.

but they only did all that because the M3 was the better car, and still is to most people. funny how the M3 hasnt changed all that much, huh? that's what i wish this car to be. as close to perfect as you can get, right out of the box...

[Matador]

Originally Posted by madfast

but they only did all that because the M3 was the better car, and still is to most people. funny how the M3 hasnt changed all that much, huh? that's what i wish this car to be. as close to perfect as you can get, right out of the box...

Standing still is what gets you shot.

[madfast]

Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1

Standing still is what gets you shot.

unless you're so far above and beyond your competition they simply cant get a good sight picture. the M3 has never lost a comparo. whats amazing is that its basically the same car that came out in 2008. yet audi, MB, lexus, jaguar, caddy, etc STILL cannot match its all around excellence. im no bmw fan, but ya gotta give respect when its due.

likewise, from all the initial reviews of the FRS/BRZ, this car is going to be a contender...

[CyberFormula]

I think i would be pissed if there was a Mechanical LSD, Better looking rims..and most of all a turbo coming afterwards.

If it was like the s2000, where it isn't too much different then i'm okay.