Scion FR-S Manager hopes to introduce new FR-S variant every year

[Slide]

Why would I buy the first year model knowing that in 8months time they will release one that is better!?

[Quentin]

Originally Posted by ryude

Click the link I put in my post, you'll learn what it means.

Yeah, I know exactly what it means. The first model year car isn't unusable after the "special editions*" come out. They aren't being put out to get early adopters to trade in for a newer one. They are being put out there to maintain interest as the model ages.

You say it like updating through the life of the model isn't common practice in the automotive industry. IMO, planned obsolescence is when Ford refreshed the Mustang and didn't offer the 5.0 and new 3.7 until the 2nd year of the refresh.

*This is assuming the special editions are suspension, interior, and exterior mods and not major powertrain upgrades.

[Mari0]

All the more reason to show off your first gen beauty 10 years down the line :P

[nixeighty6]

Originally Posted by tripjammer

Its now rumored that the FR-S might get up to 34 MPG on the highway!

"Fuel economy: above 40mpg" Telegraph
"40.9mpg (est, combined)" Autocar online
42mpg on the combined cycle * *top gear

are you just making up 34?

[nixeighty6]

there are all ways going to be the people that wait for the "next one" .. i will buy the 1st gen and trade it in when they come out with the next one i want, ie supercharged.. so what if there is going to be something better next year?.. there all ways is.

while you wait i will play

[Hachiroku]

Originally Posted by nixeighty6

there are all ways going to be the people that wait for the "next one" .. i will buy the 1st gen and trade it in when they come out with the next one i want, ie supercharged.. so what if there is going to be something better next year?.. there all ways is.

while you wait i will play

Exactly!

For example, apple refreshes almost their entire product line once a year. If one was to hold off on purchasing an apple product because they know a refresh or new model is coming out next year, then there will never be a good time to buy one.

Just buy an FR-S/BRZ/86 when you're ready or capable, and enjoy the hell out of it. Keep looking at the horizon fearing what may be released next, and you'll never get to enjoy one.

[madfast]

Originally Posted by nixeighty6

there are all ways going to be the people that wait for the "next one" .. i will buy the 1st gen and trade it in when they come out with the next one i want, ie supercharged.. so what if there is going to be something better next year?.. there all ways is.

while you wait i will play

once you drive off the lot, it's a used scion. you will take a huge hit financially. if you're mark zuckerberg, then more power to you and your money. but for the rest of us, i'd rather buy a car and not have to feel like it's obsolete one week later, when you read on the internet all the cool stuff next years car gets...

go ask a 2010 mustang GT owner how he feels... or any GT-R owner... or that one lucky guy that bought a 911 GT3 RS and the next day they announced the GT3 RS 4.0...

[old greg]

Originally Posted by nixeighty6

"Fuel economy: above 40mpg" Telegraph
"40.9mpg (est, combined)" Autocar online
42mpg on the combined cycle * *top gear

are you just making up 34?

UK gallons are not US gallons.

[NemesisPrime909]

Originally Posted by Hachiroku

Exactly!

For example, apple refreshes almost their entire product line once a year. If one was to hold off on purchasing an apple product because they know a refresh or new model is coming out next year, then there will never be a good time to buy one.

Just buy an FR-S/BRZ/86 when you're ready or capable, and enjoy the hell out of it. Keep looking at the horizon fearing what may be released next, and you'll never get to enjoy one.

agreed

however in my case, I may just end up buying another if i like it enough

ah well I did intend on buying a BRZ sti eventually, so why not add an RS FRS?

[RRnold]

Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1

$20 bucks says RS 1.0 will be a Panda Scheme.

That just sounds weird FRS RS 1.0

Originally Posted by madfast

this would be an idiotic idea. the GT-R is a legit supercar and it has to stay competitive year after year. but this car? no way. all it would do is alienate the early adopters. instead they should finally offer TRD or Modellista aftermarket parts at a reasonable price. that should be enough to keep things interesting.

as for the Release series cars? unique colors, body kits, wheels, and some interior features not easily added can make those cars unique. but the performance bits? they should be available to everyone at a reasonable price.

“Some will have Toyota performance parts from, say, TRD (Toyota Racing Development) — suspension, tires, wheels, etc. Others will be very different from that.”

Given that Subaru has made its performance intentions clearly known with the BRZ STI Concept at this year’s 2011 Los Angeles Auto Show, and that a company insider revealed there is a turbocharged FA20 mill in the pipeline, it makes sense for Toyota to pursue its individual avenues of performance and style. Granted, it’s still unclear whether any of these variants will head to North America, so don’t hold your breath for that 300-horse FR-S or luxury-focused Modellista just yet.

Originally Posted by nixeighty6

there are all ways going to be the people that wait for the "next one" .. i will buy the 1st gen and trade it in when they come out with the next one i want, ie supercharged.. so what if there is going to be something better next year?.. there all ways is.

Given that this thing is a Scion for US/Canada, there is a high possibility we'll get screwed again!

[nixeighty6]

Originally Posted by madfast

once you drive off the lot, it's a used scion. you will take a huge hit financially. if you're mark zuckerberg, then more power to you and your money. but for the rest of us, i'd rather buy a car and not have to feel like it's obsolete one week later, when you read on the internet all the cool stuff next years car gets...

go ask a 2010 mustang GT owner how he feels... or any GT-R owner... or that one lucky guy that bought a 911 GT3 RS and the next day they announced the GT3 RS 4.0...

jesus.. zuckerbrg.. really? "huge hit finalcially ." its a car, im not buying enron stock

so how do you feel with your evo mr-t? that car is a prime example of what your hating on. haha.. i bet you love every day you drive it and say "god i love my car" or do you have buyers remorse and check kbb daily to see how your investment is doing?

[tripjammer]

Originally Posted by nixeighty6

"Fuel economy: above 40mpg" Telegraph
"40.9mpg (est, combined)" Autocar online
42mpg on the combined cycle * *top gear

are you just making up 34?

Dude I have heard 29 MPG up to 34 MPG...just saying.

I am not making anything up.

[tripjammer]

I am all down for them making changes both in performance and looks to the car every year. It keeps it fresh and might make me want to trade in my car every 2 to 3 years.

[Steve]

This will mean more used ones for us poor folks to choose from after all the rich folks trade in for the first release series.