What you HATE the most on your FR-S/BRZ/GT86/FT86?

[Wattage]

Firstly, I take issue with you basically alluding that the torque dip either doesn't exist or is a non-issue. It has been highly documented and is easily observable.

Secondly, I take issue with the chip on your shoulder.

That's about it.

[kajun]

AT driver here - The torque dip is there, no question about that, but the AT does a job of making it feel less so - in default mode it shifts up right in the middle of the dip, which feels like a natural point to shift, and in doing so it keeps fuel consumption decent while still giving the car a decent bit of go as you climb through the gears.

In Sport shift mode, you can feel the power coming back on after 4500rpm, and then the car has some real go until you bump up against the 7k shift point.

My pet peeve right now? In AT Sport mode, once you hit the speed limit on most roads it tends to hang onto one gear too low (usually 3rd) at 4-5k rpm, and I have to blip up to put it into a sensible gear. This could be solved by increasing the speed limits, but I don't think my state government is going to be willing to listen to that petition.

[Snowblind]

Originally Posted by Tromatic

What is this "torque dip"? My AT (sorry) shifts at 4k in plain-old "D". Eveyone else is in the mirror, and I'm being conservative on the gas.

I bet if you learned how to drive well despite the "limitations" of the car you might be a better driver. I suspect people who complain about the "torque dip" can't drive out of a wet paper bag.

The car is slow..big deal, it wasn't meant to be fast in a straight line, or to be driven with an automatic.

[boredom.is.me]

My official answer:
The seat belt chafes my neck.

[Wattage]

something that actually bothers me about the car:

the seat belts in the back flap like crazy when I drive with windows open, they make a lot of noise

I could probably solve it easily but I only tend to think about it when it is happening

[civicdrivr]

Originally Posted by Wattage

something that actually bothers me about the car:

the seat belts in the back flap like crazy when I drive with windows open, they make a lot of noise

I could probably solve it easily but I only tend to think about it when it is happening

Mine was doing that today @ 70mph on the highway. I moved the front seat up a little (slider, not seat back) and it stopped. Maybe that will work for you.

Sent from my Nexus 4

[Tromatic]

Originally Posted by Wattage

Firstly, I take issue with you basically alluding that the torque dip either doesn't exist or is a non-issue. It has been highly documented and is easily observable.

Secondly, I take issue with the chip on your shoulder.

That's about it.

Drive around the dip, it's not perfect. It's a non-issue. No chip, just amused buy the people who blame the car for their shortcomings, and spend long green on "fixing" the car. On second thought, perhaps it is a "chip" related to age. Being 50, I'm long past blaming the equipment or using it as a penis enhacement. Is there a sub forum for old farts to laugh at the crowd who feel the need to rice out this car, but who don't spend a minute or dime on driving skills, sorry, "skillz"?

[Fish Eagle]

The "torque dip" hardly bothers me at all now.
I've got used to the schitzo nature of this magnificent car, and I've learnt to drive around that.

I either tootle around in "calm and gentle" mode below 4000rpm, or cross the torque divide once and "give it horns" keeping it between 5000 and 7500rpm.

I said "hardly bothers" because I still get a bit frustrated if I have to gear down several cogs to get enough grunt for quick overtaking when necessary.
But that's OK, because it's more than balanced out by what's great.

[Mikem53]

Originally Posted by Tromatic

What is this "torque dip"? My AT (sorry) shifts at 4k in plain-old "D". Eveyone else is in the mirror, and I'm being conservative on the gas.

I bet if you learned how to drive well despite the "limitations" of the car you might be a better driver. I suspect people who complain about the "torque dip" can't drive out of a wet paper bag.

One only needs to look at a Dyno chart to see the torque dip.. Or pay attention when you drive it at 4k rpms.. You will/should notice a dip in power before it builds back up.. It's not horrible... But it's there.. Kind of like waiting for it to come up on cam... I don't think it's bad really.. Just adds to the character of the car.. I expect to wait for power to wind up on this 2 litre mill.. Has nothing to do with driving skill..

[Mikem53]

Originally Posted by Tromatic

Drive around the dip, it's not perfect. It's a non-issue. No chip, just amused buy the people who blame the car for their shortcomings, and spend long green on "fixing" the car. On second thought, perhaps it is a "chip" related to age. Being 50, I'm long past blaming the equipment or using it as a penis enhacement. Is there a sub forum for old farts to laugh at the crowd who feel the need to rice out this car, but who don't spend a minute or dime on driving skills, sorry, "skillz"?

There is a torque dip.. And it's not anyone's shortcoming.. And
Age has nothing to do with it.. I'm 60, older than dirt and I'm learning things on here from the younger crowd all the time. These young'ins can learn you a thing or two if you would open your mind a bit.
While I think many on here take things to the extreme.. Its interesting to see the results from all these mods... And this car was made to be modded..
I like it as it is just out of the box... But many on here want more... So what's wrong with that? Kudos to the very capable younger generation..

[kevman_101]

I find, in stock form, 2 modes of driving. 1 where you just drive in town and shift at 3-4000rpm. You hit the dip and you shift. Mode 2 is race mode and you shift at the red line and you make sure you`re in the right gear.

If you try mode 1.5, well you shift at 5000 and land right in the torque dip and your pissed hehehe.

[Sarlacc]

I love my GT86, the way it looks, feels and drives. I think it's the most thrilling and exiting car I have ever driven, and I have driven some very cool cars. I am a proud and happy owner.
I can't believe there's 50 pages of people complaining about cup holders and what not.

[microbionic]

I hate not having 2.

[HunterGreene]

Originally Posted by Tromatic

Drive around the dip, it's not perfect. It's a non-issue. No chip, just amused buy the people who blame the car for their shortcomings, and spend long green on "fixing" the car. On second thought, perhaps it is a "chip" related to age. Being 50, I'm long past blaming the equipment or using it as a penis enhacement. Is there a sub forum for old farts to laugh at the crowd who feel the need to rice out this car, but who don't spend a minute or dime on driving skills, sorry, "skillz"?

Yeah, its not a chip, more like a 2x4.