Eibach Multi-Pro R2 Coilover Review

[ayau]

Originally Posted by donutfilling

Had the very same issue initially but I talked to Tony and Mark at Eibach and they took care of it. I'd get in contact with them.

If you don't mind sharing, what exactly was corrected?

[RYU]

Originally Posted by swift996

I installed mine - I'm just wondering if any others running them can give me some feedback.

It seems when the car is cold in the morning I get a little more noise up front. Almost like the sway bar is loose or something. I've validated all bots are on tight. The only thing I didn't do to spec was I just ran the reservoir lines up through the wheel wheel by pulling it back versus routing through the passage area. Just in general, it seems to have quite a bit more noise over bumps (almost like something is rattling). Anyone else have this?

Second - The car seems very bouncy. I'm running:
Front - 2 clicks compression, 1 click rebound (from softest setting)
Rear - 1 click compression, 1 click rebound (from softest setting)

The roads aren't super smooth but the car feels jarring to a degree. I've ran Bilstein PSS9s on my 911 and KW V3s on my M3 and haven't experienced this even turned up pretty stiff. Is anyone else experiencing this?

BTW - Running the off-the-shelf spring rates (275/350)

They have mine now. I'm running off-shelf rates also (read: soft rates) I recommended they do more R&D on the valving but am I a nobody in these parts so we'll see how it goes.

Since then I've tried similar priced coilovers, essentially the competitors to the Multi-Pro line and will have feedback after I get my set back.

Remember when I posted on here "I hope there are no 1st gen issues"?
edit: oops. that was on another thread. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...t=27218&page=6

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by swift996

I installed mine - I'm just wondering if any others running them can give me some feedback.

It seems when the car is cold in the morning I get a little more noise up front. Almost like the sway bar is loose or something. I've validated all bots are on tight. The only thing I didn't do to spec was I just ran the reservoir lines up through the wheel wheel by pulling it back versus routing through the passage area. Just in general, it seems to have quite a bit more noise over bumps (almost like something is rattling). Anyone else have this?

Second - The car seems very bouncy. I'm running:
Front - 2 clicks compression, 1 click rebound (from softest setting)
Rear - 1 click compression, 1 click rebound (from softest setting)

The roads aren't super smooth but the car feels jarring to a degree. I've ran Bilstein PSS9s on my 911 and KW V3s on my M3 and haven't experienced this even turned up pretty stiff. Is anyone else experiencing this?

BTW - Running the off-the-shelf spring rates (275/350)

Please describe the "bouncy" feeling a bit more. Is the car going up and down a lot? Or, is it just a harsh ride when you hit bumps?

Although I'm not 100% clear on what you're saying, it sounds like you need more rebound damping. Try increasing rebound clicks 1 by one until it settles.

Alternatively, if you're local to us, we do offer suspension tuning services and can dial it in for you.

[Hanakuso]

Originally Posted by swift996

I installed mine - I'm just wondering if any others running them can give me some feedback.

It seems when the car is cold in the morning I get a little more noise up front. Almost like the sway bar is loose or something. I've validated all bots are on tight. The only thing I didn't do to spec was I just ran the reservoir lines up through the wheel wheel by pulling it back versus routing through the passage area. Just in general, it seems to have quite a bit more noise over bumps (almost like something is rattling). Anyone else have this?

Second - The car seems very bouncy. I'm running:
Front - 2 clicks compression, 1 click rebound (from softest setting)
Rear - 1 click compression, 1 click rebound (from softest setting)

The roads aren't super smooth but the car feels jarring to a degree. I've ran Bilstein PSS9s on my 911 and KW V3s on my M3 and haven't experienced this even turned up pretty stiff. Is anyone else experiencing this?

BTW - Running the off-the-shelf spring rates (275/350)

I believe I am getting a similar noise and it's only there from 1-40 mph. It almost sounds like a waterfall and sometimes I can hear the spring "ting" when I turn going on a bump.

I'm planning on going to Eibach next week and they will try to help me figure out what the problem is.

[RYU]

Originally Posted by Hanakuso

I believe I am getting a similar noise and it's only there from 1-40 mph. It almost sounds like a waterfall and sometimes I can hear the spring "ting" when I turn going on a bump.

I'm planning on going to Eibach next week and they will try to help me figure out what the problem is.

I've had the sloshing/waterfall sound before when I had external reservoirs. If we're talking about the same noise I do not believe there's much you can do about that. Small price to pay for having external reservoirs That's actually one of the reasons I went with the R1s. I wouldn't take advantage of the external reservoirs therefore would rather not have that noise. A well tuned single knob setup is pretty good and convenient. A poorly tuned single knob setup makes me wish I had the dual adjustments in the R2s to tune it myself.

The noise is something else. That's a WIP on mine at the moment but I heard the same noise at first I thought it was the rear pillowballs...

[donutfilling]

Not too positive on what they did, I believe it was possible just a bad set of pillowballs? But I wasn't there too long and I had to rush back to school so I didn't get details. Will probably order stiffer springs as I feel they are really soft currently, just have no idea on what rates I should go.

[Hanakuso]

Originally Posted by RYU

I've had the sloshing/waterfall sound before when I had external reservoirs. If we're talking about the same noise I do not believe there's much you can do about that. Small price to pay for having external reservoirs That's actually one of the reasons I went with the R1s. I wouldn't take advantage of the external reservoirs therefore would rather not have that noise. A well tuned single knob setup is pretty good and convenient. A poorly tuned single knob setup makes me wish I had the dual adjustments in the R2s to tune it myself.

The noise is something else. That's a WIP on mine at the moment but I heard the same noise at first I thought it was the rear pillowballs...

Oh, that's good to know. I thought it was coming from the helper springs but I know they should be fully compressed when driven normally, so it didn't make sense.

[ayau]

I really don't hear any weird noises that you guys are hearing lol.

[Hanakuso]

Originally Posted by donutfilling

Not too positive on what they did, I believe it was possible just a bad set of pillowballs? But I wasn't there too long and I had to rush back to school so I didn't get details. Will probably order stiffer springs as I feel they are really soft currently, just have no idea on what rates I should go.

It seems most are doing 400-500 in front and 500-600 in the rear. I'm waiting to hear some feedback from Dave and others on there uprated springs.

Btw, if we run Swift or Hyperco springs, does that void the warranty?

[RYU]

Originally Posted by Hanakuso

Oh, that's good to know. I thought it was coming from the helper springs but I know they should be fully compressed when driven normally, so it didn't make sense.

It might be. Too early to tell. I'd like to give these guys a chance to figure it out before spreading heresay.

Originally Posted by ayau

I really don't hear any weird noises that you guys are hearing lol.

Lucky you! no...... really!

Originally Posted by Hanakuso

It seems most are doing 400-500 in front and 500-600 in the rear. I'm waiting to hear some feedback from Dave and others on there uprated springs.

Btw, if we run Swift or Hyperco springs, does that void the warranty?

It shouldn't but who knows what's written in the fine print. Those are both good spring manufacturers (at least for their linear springs) so i'd be surprised if they did. Make sure they're properly fitted though and you buy the right height.

[swift996]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Please describe the "bouncy" feeling a bit more. Is the car going up and down a lot? Or, is it just a harsh ride when you hit bumps?

Although I'm not 100% clear on what you're saying, it sounds like you need more rebound damping. Try increasing rebound clicks 1 by one until it settles.

Alternatively, if you're local to us, we do offer suspension tuning services and can dial it in for you.

It's a little harsh (I expected that) but it seems to bounce easy, feels like a $100 set of coilovers from ebay. I'll try and up the rebound and see. I haven't played a ton with the adjustments just a few clicks. It's less harsh when I went softer but it still bounces. Perhaps jarring might be a better way to describe it but it definitely has a bounce to it.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by swift996

It's a little harsh (I expected that) but it seems to bounce easy, feels like a $100 set of coilovers from ebay. I'll try and up the rebound and see. I haven't played a ton with the adjustments just a few clicks. It's less harsh when I went softer but it still bounces. Perhaps jarring might be a better way to describe it but it definitely has a bounce to it.

Reduce compression, increase rebound. Give that a shot. Anything not "spot on" will feel far bouncier/harsher than it should.

[swift996]

Alright so quick update, I spent all afternoon working on the adjustments.

- The noise seems to come from the front left (drivers side) and almost like a clanking/rattling when I hit a bump. Again sounds like the sway bar is hanging on by a thread.

- I went all the way to 0 on everything. It seems like 0 clicks compression and 2-3 clicks rebound seem to be the best to avoid the bounce. They are still pretty harsh, tends to be a little jerky, and I can feel the lost performance. I found what I consider the best for performance but it comes at a heavy price. It feels like a full out race car, nothing that is streetable.

I'm putting my new tires and rims on but I think it will only amplify the issues. I'm very surprised how not street friendly the R2s are. As I've mentioned I've run KWs and Bilsteins and when you go to a softer setting they ride like stock. The R2s can barely get close to a streetable setting for me. My roads aren't the best but I feel like they should ride smoother. A little disappointed as of now.

[ayau]

Originally Posted by swift996

Alright so quick update, I spent all afternoon working on the adjustments.

- The noise seems to come from the front left (drivers side) and almost like a clanking/rattling when I hit a bump. Again sounds like the sway bar is hanging on by a thread.

- I went all the way to 0 on everything. It seems like 0 clicks compression and 2-3 clicks rebound seem to be the best to avoid the bounce. They are still pretty harsh, tends to be a little jerky, and I can feel the lost performance. I found what I consider the best for performance but it comes at a heavy price. It feels like a full out race car, nothing that is streetable.

I'm putting my new tires and rims on but I think it will only amplify the issues. I'm very surprised how not street friendly the R2s are. As I've mentioned I've run KWs and Bilsteins and when you go to a softer setting they ride like stock. The R2s can barely get close to a streetable setting for me. My roads aren't the best but I feel like they should ride smoother. A little disappointed as of now.

And you're on stock 275/350 rates?

I'm on 500/650 and they feel ok to me, but I have nothing else to compare to.