0-60 mph - forget handling ability for 5.9 seconds

[Allch Chcar]

I still say it will be around 6 seconds. Not fast and not slow.

[WolfpackS2k]

Originally Posted by Torquesteered

Ask the VW guys if launch control makes a difference at 200hp...

Because comparing a turbo engine with a very low peak torque figure to a naturally aspirated engine that makes less torque at a higher part of the power band makes sense?

No, it doesn't make sense.

Nevermind all the weight being transferred OFF the VW's drive wheels at launch.

[slusoccer00]

I'm guessing it barely breaks in the 6's... 6.8.

[SUB-FT86]

Originally Posted by Allch Chcar

I still say it will be around 6 seconds. Not fast and not slow.

I agree with you on this. But what I find so funny about 4 cylinder sporty cars is that they only feel fast to me when you're gunning them. I remember in my friends s2k under normal driving it felt like my RSX base but then when he started to gun the engine it totally transformed into a wild beast.

[Eldorian]

Originally Posted by slusoccer00

I'm guessing it barely breaks in the 6's... 6.8.

Yeah, a bit slower than the RX8 is my guess. Most people in this thread are overly optimistic.

And the one guy who said that this engine will be more "explosive" than the Renesis is talking out of his ass. Less power and less torque is more explosive I guess.

[Neutral_Eyes]

Originally Posted by Palmy

Yes, "handling".
Since handling is an unquantifiable value and completely subjective.

Brace for Motor Trend article: http://www.motortrend.com/features/1..._handling_car/

[tripjammer]

Ok scion FRS weight is 2601 pounds to 200 HP = 13.0 power to weight ratio

Optimal gearing...where 60 MPH is reached in the top of second gear...and a good torque curve...

This care is going to surprise a bunch of people. Sure it will never be 370Z fast, but I will be just a bit slower than a V6 genny coupe. Think upper 5 secs to lower 6 secs.

[SUB-FT86]

Originally Posted by tripjammer

Ok scion FRS weight is 2601 pounds to 200 HP = 13.0 power to weight ratio

Optimal gearing...where 60 MPH is reached in the top of second gear...and a good torque curve...

This care is going to surprise a bunch of people. Sure it will never be 370Z fast, but I will be just a bit slower than a V6 genny coupe. Think upper 5 secs to lower 6 secs.

Where did you get 2601 lbs from?

[DrunkenMime]

Originally Posted by Rampage

I am going to guess mid to high 6s. Toyota and Subaru are stating around 6 second 0-60 but in car marketing jargon (and drag racing) that could mean 6.99 sec. ie. "I ran in the sixes!"

The 2012 Honda Civic Si has comparble weight, hp and a little more torque. It runs 0-60 in 6.9 seconds. I would be shocked if a stock FRS/BRZ could best it by a full second to 60mph.

Edit: I better lock down a specific time because everyone else is. I will say MT = 6.5 AT = 6.7 (hey they said it was good!)

RWD should knock off a few tenths of a second 0-60...probably half a second...so 6.4ish

[madfast]

Originally Posted by SUB-FT86

Where did you get 2601 lbs from?

he got it from here: http://www.toyota.co.uk/cgi-bin/toyo...FT86II-landing

probably the dry weight of the lowest possible trim

[Matador]

Originally Posted by madfast

he got it from here: http://www.toyota.co.uk/cgi-bin/toyo...FT86II-landing

probably the dry weight of the lowest possible trim

If that's a dry weight it'd curb at over 2800lbs.

[SUB-FT86]

How much does 13 gallons weigh? 200+ lbs? I doubt it.

[SUB-FT86]

Originally Posted by Eldorian

Yeah, a bit slower than the RX8 is my guess. Most people in this thread are overly optimistic.

And the one guy who said that this engine will be more "explosive" than the Renesis is talking out of his ass. Less power and less torque is more explosive I guess.

When I saw that I chose not to respond to it.

[iff2mastamatt]

Originally Posted by TheRoadWarrior

Care to put some money on that?

Since it's tranny is based off the IS-F, I would indeed sir .