Matt Farah tests out the Crawford Subaru BRZ - Page 4 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

kanundrum · 05-14-2013, 10:38 PM

Someone Call Chris Harris and Jeremy Clarkson!

SmsAlSuwaidi · 05-14-2013, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kanundrum

Someone Call Chris Harris and Jeremy Clarkson!

Chris harris works on the same Youtube channel with this guy

kanundrum · 05-14-2013, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SmsAlSuwaidi

Chris harris works on the same Youtube channel with this guy

Hence why I mentioned it

killerkid08 · 05-14-2013, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by White_Lightning

To anyone's knowledge, will their be an available bolt on turbo kit that doesn't require massive modifications? Such as a built engine? I remember seeing this car at SEMA and thinking, what a nice kit this would be.

There are already several out, why not go AVO, FBM, Ptuning, P&L etc..... ?

King Tut · 05-15-2013, 12:47 PM

Gets Farah to drive car, car runs poorly, puts up for sale on eBay for $60k. Looks good.

White_Lightning · 05-15-2013, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by killerkid08

There are already several out, why not go AVO, FBM, Ptuning, P&L etc..... ?

Been following AVO's kit probably the closet. I really like the simplicity of their kit. The only irk I have is the unequal length manifold. My last car was an 08 STI with a turbo back exhaust. For me personally, running through the last 1000 rpm always sounded like the engine was going to blow up due to that burble sound. My previous cars were an S2000 and a Integra Type-R. To me, those cars sounded fantastic in the upper rev range. Since Honda doesn't build enthusiast cars anymore,(sorry crz) I'll keep sticking with these Boxers. Speaking of STI's, (Everyone but America)who wouldn't covet the almighty twin scroll turbo. Cue Crawford?

killerkid08 · 05-15-2013, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by White_Lightning

Been following AVO's kit probably the closet. I really like the simplicity of their kit. The only irk I have is the unequal length manifold. My last car was an 08 STI with a turbo back exhaust. For me personally, running through the last 1000 rpm always sounded like the engine was going to blow up due to that burble sound. My previous cars were an S2000 and a Integra Type-R. To me, those cars sounded fantastic in the upper rev range. Since Honda doesn't build enthusiast cars anymore,(sorry crz) I'll keep sticking with these Boxers. Speaking of STI's, (Everyone but America)who wouldn't covet the almighty twin scroll turbo. Cue Crawford?

the manifold provides the sound, and its a damn good one.

White_Lightning · 05-15-2013, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by killerkid08

the manifold provides the sound, and its a damn good one.

I'm afraid our ears are tuned differently, but at least our eyes know that Whiteout is the color of Champions!

Sportsguy83 · 05-16-2013, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by White_Lightning

The only irk I have is the unequal length manifold.

You really don't like this sound???

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7uqfy6ZAJI"]Subaru BRZ with AVO Kit drive by video - YouTube[/ame]

sierra · 05-16-2013, 09:52 AM

The UEL header makes it sound as if it's only doing half the revs of the EL header.
At the red line it sounds like it's short shifting at 4000rpm compared to the EL header which leaves no doubt about where it's at.

The Borla UEL header sounds fantastic when it's blipped but when it takes off the the EL header sounds like it has another 2000rpm and an extra 50hp to go with it.
The Borla header must be less unequal than yours because it has far less of the beat, which I prefer.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3WrXQrBA44"]Borla R&D: Comparison UEL v EL Header 2013 Scion FR-S/Subaru BRZ - YouTube[/ame]

Sound is like colour and a matter of taste. Just trying to rationalise my taste.
Your car is fantastic and if it was mine the only change I would make would be to that header.

You did ask!

Opposed · 05-16-2013, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Sportsguy83

You really don't like this sound???

I sure as hell do! I watch your video daily.

Sportsguy83 · 05-16-2013, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by sierra

The Borla header must be less unequal than yours because it has far less of the beat, which I prefer.

Sound is like colour and a matter of taste. Just trying to rationalise my taste.
Your car is fantastic and if it was mine the only change I would make would be to that header.

You did ask!

Haha! No problem!! I do understand we all have different tastes. I have no problem with anyone liking EL more, or not liking how my car sounds.

The AVO manifold is as Unequal as it gets... The turbo is literally coming off one of the exhaust banks while the other travels from the other side.

sierra · 05-16-2013, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Sportsguy83

Haha! No problem!! I do understand we all have different tastes. I have no problem with anyone liking EL more, or not liking how my car sounds.

The AVO manifold is as Unequal as it gets... The turbo is literally coming off one of the exhaust banks while the other travels from the other side.

No, you couldn't get more unequal than that!
Of course I like it! I would like it even more with a less extreme UEL header.
My ideal FI header would be the shortest 4-2-1 EL possible, to help keep a good meaty top end rush. Mind you, the length might not be so important as it is for NA?

Is there a thread I can ask you about the catch can you fitted?

Sportsguy83 · 05-16-2013, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by sierra

No, you couldn't get more unequal than that!
Of course I like it! I would like it even more with a less extreme UEL header.
My ideal FI header would be the shortest 4-2-1 EL possible, to help keep a good meaty top end rush. Mind you, the length might not be so important as it is for NA?

Is there a thread I can ask you about the catch can you fitted?

Thanks!

Here is the link to the Catch Can: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19462

D3PE Engineering. I need to do a review of it.

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sierra Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: Skoda Yeti DSG diesel 4x4 Location: W. Australia Posts: 1,203 Thanks: 336 Thanked 307 Times in 230 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The UEL header makes it sound as if it's only doing half the revs of the EL header. At the red line it sounds like it's short shifting at 4000rpm compared to the EL header which leaves no doubt about where it's at. The Borla UEL header sounds fantastic when it's blipped but when it takes off the the EL header sounds like it has another 2000rpm and an extra 50hp to go with it. The Borla header must be less unequal than yours because it has far less of the beat, which I prefer. [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3WrXQrBA44"]Borla R&D: Comparison UEL v EL Header 2013 Scion FR-S/Subaru BRZ - YouTube[/ame] Sound is like colour and a matter of taste. Just trying to rationalise my taste. Your car is fantastic and if it was mine the only change I would make would be to that header. You did ask!

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