Why did you choose the BRZ over the FRS?

[Brzetto]

Originally Posted by dirtbike250x

I was reading a few posts in this thread and was curious as to why, when some say how scion is an iffy brand or just not wanting to own a scion. There isn't anything "scion" about the car just the badges. I can understand the styling differences (which is one of the reasons why I choose the scion) and the fancy interior features, but they are still the same car made by the same people with different badges.

Scion isn't an iffy brand per se but Toyota did ripoff the name Cylon from Battlestar Galactica.

[Brzetto]

Originally Posted by forzajuve

Some understandable reasons with regard to color and leather seats.
Way too many trivial reasons otherwise. This one got me for sure:


Long live the 86!

I'm not surprised you didn't answer the question because then you would have to conjure up a reason why you think Subaru is a bad brand.

[nofferman]

Originally Posted by edward

Subaru's target market is college educated snow-belt residents. And lesbians. (jk jk )

I live in Wisconsin and have some colleges, clearly the BRZ was the only possible choice. I'm only gay for WR Blue though.

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by Zippy

Toyota dropped the ball in my eyes. They figured the American buyer would not know what an AE86 was or the significance of it. Then when I heard "Scion ...", my choice was made for me. The BRZs twin IS the Toyota GT 86. I refuse to acknowledge the existence of a third model from two car companies. So with all this in mind..... I bought the only one of the two offered in the USA.

the old corolla is a piece of shit. it was fun but barely. i think youre being a little ridiculous although, at mrsp the brz is the better buy if thats what youre into.

[DEnd]

Originally Posted by Brzetto

Scion isn't an iffy brand per se but Toyota did ripoff the name Cylon from Battlestar Galactica.

What?

Scion is a horticultural term meaning root stock. Which is what the brand is supposed to do create some good roots for young buyers who can then mature with the Toyota family tree.

*edit.. A scion is actually what is grafted onto the rootstock

[forzajuve]

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[Upton]

I ordered an FR-S from my neighborhood Scion dealer where I previously bought my tC. (The color I wanted, hot lava, was exclusive to Scion.) They found one just making port and requested it. After waiting three weeks for delivery, I called my salesman to see what was up with my order. I was told the car had arrived but it was an automatic - not the manual as I had ordered. (Apparently they didn't look close enough at the specs and then didn't have the guts to tell me this when it arrived, hoping they could find a replacement before I checked to see what the hold-up was.) They said they were looking around the area to see if they could find another one for me. In the meantime, miffed to say the least after three weeks of waiting and then having my order botched, I walked across the street to my neighborhood Subaru dealer and got a good look at a BRZ Limited in dark grey metallic. I liked the color (not so midlife crisis-ish as my first choice Scion color, I decided) as well as the many nicer features of the BRZ Limited compared to the FR-S. The salesman told me the one I was sitting in was spoken for but they checked and found one from another metro dealer they could drive down for me to pick up the next day. I went back to the Scion dealer told them not to bother looking anymore and got my deposit back. I picked up the Subaru the next day and felt lucky in a way - like I ended up with a car I'm going to like much more.

[sbxjap]

I didn't care about the brand... I like the look of both cars. My current car is the basest of base models, lol. My car is old so anytime I fix something, something else breaks. So I figured I deserved a brand new car after all the work I've put in over the years...

I wanted to get the highest trim if possible of the car I would buy. So after looking at different cars, I settled on the 86. After looking at the trim levels, I think the Limited is worth the extra money.

[qoncept]

I had $1900 in Subaru Bucks rewards from my credit card. The BRZ is nicer and I'm a Subaru guy anyway, but I would have gladly bought an FR-S.

[autobrz]

1. more stable suspension setup when nannies are off
2. keyless start
3. leather
4. heated seats
5. subaru (my 1st

[DylanFRS]

Originally Posted by edward

Subaru races. Scion kinda does, but not really.

Where does this statement come from? Subaru doesn't even race in WRC anymore. At least Scion has the Celebrity Races and a World Challenge team.

[DeeezNuuuts83]

Originally Posted by DylanFRS

Where does this statement come from? Subaru doesn't even race in WRC anymore. At least Scion has the Celebrity Races and a World Challenge team.

Well, Scion didn't start it. Prior to that, it was a Toyota thing, with the celebs piloting Toyota Celica GT-Ss, but obviously that couldn't continue once the cars were no longer in production, so it shifted to Scion since they still had relatively sporty two-door coupes in their lineup.

[DylanFRS]

Originally Posted by DeeezNuuuts83

Well, Scion didn't start it. Prior to that, it was a Toyota thing, with the celebs piloting Toyota Celica GT-Ss, but obviously that couldn't continue once the cars were no longer in production, so it shifted to Scion since they still had relatively sporty two-door coupes in their lineup.

Why does it matter who start it?

In case anyone hasn't figured it out yet, Scion=Toyota... When you buy a Scion, you are buying a Toyota. Just because the badge is shaped different doesn't change what it is. I could put Ferrari symbols on my FRZ and it would still be a Subaru/Toyota.

[DeeezNuuuts83]

Originally Posted by DylanFRS

Why does it matter who start it?

In case anyone hasn't figured it out yet, Scion=Toyota... When you buy a Scion, you are buying a Toyota. Just because the badge is shaped different doesn't change what it is. I could put Ferrari symbols on my FRZ and it would still be a Subaru/Toyota.

So if Scion=Toyota and Toyota=Lexus, then Scion=Lexus? Sweet.

I'm just saying that your criticisms of Subaru weren't exactly a reason to downplay their involvement in racing. Basically you were discrediting Subaru because they didn't actively participate in WRC "anymore" (as if pulling out of that particular motorsport in recent years means that their credibility is shot, despite around 20 years of prior participation), but Scion has credibility because they still do some events that they got into within the past few years that involve a bunch of celebs, most of whom don't race competitively, racing for fun.

That's not to discredit what the Scion brand is doing, but it's not exactly leaps and bounds more significant than what Subaru had been doing.