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Opposed · 04-16-2013, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by firl21

would this work on an auto frs?

Yes, its been discussed many times. There are a few turbo autos on this forum. Read a few posts above you. Fullblowns auto put down 430whp and 350wtq on E85.

firl21 · 04-16-2013, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Opposed

Yes, its been discussed many times. There are a few turbo autos on this forum. Read a few posts above you. Fullblowns auto put down 430whp and 350wtq on E85.

Now all i need to do is wait for this to go up for sale

whitefrs · 04-16-2013, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by firl21

Now all i need to do is wait for this to go up for sale

Its for sale already

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Opposed · 04-16-2013, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by firl21

Now all i need to do is wait for this to go up for sale

The turbo kit is already for sale. Its around $4500 for the stage 1 kit.

velin86 · 05-14-2013, 07:16 PM

Does the kit come with a MAP sensor?

Frs300 · 05-14-2013, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by velin86

Does the kit come with a MAP sensor?

no it does not

Sportsguy83 · 05-15-2013, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Frs300

no it does not

Mind boggling, although its a ~$100 easy bolt on upgrade so anyone can get it aside from the kit.

King Tut · 05-15-2013, 11:56 AM

It really isn't mind boggling to me. LJ is providing a turbo kit and a basemap for the OEM MAP sensor. Neither requires an upgraded MAP sensor to run. My car was running just fine before I upgraded the MAP sensor, and the only real advantage I have gotten from it so far is being able to log accurate boost in EcuTek which I was able to do previously with my AEM Failsafe gauge.

With that being said, I would recommend buying one, and it wouldn't surprise me if LJ includes it in future kits. Just remember that you have to run a modified tune specificially for the new MAP sensor so it isn't just a bolt on affair.

Sportsguy83 · 05-15-2013, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by King Tut

It really isn't mind boggling to me. LJ is providing a turbo kit and a basemap for the OEM MAP sensor. Neither requires an upgraded MAP sensor to run. My car was running just fine before I upgraded the MAP sensor, and the only real advantage I have gotten from it so far is being able to log accurate boost in EcuTek which I was able to do previously with my AEM Failsafe gauge.

With that being said, I would recommend buying one, and it wouldn't surprise me if LJ includes it in future kits. Just remember that you have to run a modified tune specificially for the new MAP sensor so it isn't just a bolt on affair.

Oh yeah definitely, I didn't mean to say it is absolutely necessary or that the kit FBM sells is incomplete. What boggles my mind is that its a simple ~$100 add to the kit, and with it they would be able to provide overboost protection very easily thus giving their awesome product a nice failsafe.

GOOD CALL on it not being a simple bolt on mod as the tune does need to be recalibrated for the new MAP sensor.

pmccut · 05-15-2013, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by King Tut

It really isn't mind boggling to me. LJ is providing a turbo kit and a basemap for the OEM MAP sensor. Neither requires an upgraded MAP sensor to run. My car was running just fine before I upgraded the MAP sensor, and the only real advantage I have gotten from it so far is being able to log accurate boost in EcuTek which I was able to do previously with my AEM Failsafe gauge.

With that being said, I would recommend buying one, and it wouldn't surprise me if LJ includes it in future kits. Just remember that you have to run a modified tune specificially for the new MAP sensor so it isn't just a bolt on affair.

If I don't need to plot boost with the EcuTek cable would you recommend just going with aem failsafe and any EBCS to keep it safe?

Gen · 05-15-2013, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by King Tut

It really isn't mind boggling to me. LJ is providing a turbo kit and a basemap for the OEM MAP sensor. Neither requires an upgraded MAP sensor to run. My car was running just fine before I upgraded the MAP sensor, and the only real advantage I have gotten from it so far is being able to log accurate boost in EcuTek which I was able to do previously with my AEM Failsafe gauge.

With that being said, I would recommend buying one, and it wouldn't surprise me if LJ includes it in future kits. Just remember that you have to run a modified tune specificially for the new MAP sensor so it isn't just a bolt on affair.

What's interesting is that when I brought this up to my tuner, he advised emphatically to take it back and strongly advised against using the omni 4 bar map sensor. He's done some tuning for Crawford and been working on tuning the innovative SC and stated that the map sensor introduces significantly more problems than it helps alleviate, particularly at higher power levels.

King Tut · 05-15-2013, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Gen

What's interesting is that when I brought this up to my tuner, he advised emphatically to take it back and strongly advised against using the omni 4 bar map sensor. He's done some tuning for Crawford and been working on tuning the innovative SC and stated that the map sensor introduces significantly more problems than it helps alleviate, particularly at higher power levels.

Now that is very interesting. I am running the Omni 4 bar MAP sensor right now. I just told John that is what I switched to and he sent me a new MAP for it and off I went. I don't see how a MAP sensor could create problems unless they are changing from a MAF tune to a speed density tune using the MAP sensor.

Gen · 05-15-2013, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by King Tut

Now that is very interesting. I am running the Omni 4 bar MAP sensor right now. I just told John that is what I switched to and he sent me a new MAP for it and off I went. I don't see how a MAP sensor could create problems unless they are changing from a MAF tune to a speed density tune using the MAP sensor.

He mentioned something about the Omni being trash compared to the stock MAP sensor and the boost cuts interfering with regular wastegate functionality and being incredibly violent.

dabocx · 05-15-2013, 03:55 PM

So for controlling boost would you do that through ecutek or can that been done with the AEM failsafe?

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