Supercharged GT 86/FR-S/86 vs. Turbocharged BRZ - Page 3 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

switchlanez · 12-07-2011, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Hachiroku

What the poll doesn't take into account, and which would affect these vote tallies significantly of course, is the higher price tags that the forced induction versions would carry.

Of course most people want more power. Question is, at what higher price are they still interested.

Yeah, I was hoping people would keep predicted price point in consideration which is why I put the NA versions as options.

If any FI version were to be released, I want to see it WIDEBODIED ala STI.

WHAT PRICE WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO PAY? I'd want it priced below $30k and even then I'd be debating. $28k and I'll jump on it if the overall package is sublime.

madfast · 12-07-2011, 02:13 PM

supercharger FTW! the design would be super easy.

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tranzformer · 12-07-2011, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Hachiroku

What the poll doesn't take into account, and which would affect these vote tallies significantly of course, is the higher price tags that the forced induction versions would carry.

Of course most people want more power. Question is, at what higher price are they still interested.

This. HP costs money, how much money do you have.

old greg · 12-07-2011, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by madfast

Supercharger FTW! the design would be super easy.

Yeah, that's pretty much the layout I had in mind as well. My only real concern was with having enough room behind the blower for a non-restrictive elbow/tb.

KaliKev · 12-07-2011, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tranzformer

This. HP costs money, how much money do you have.

That's why you can have both an N/A version and S/C STI version for those wanting to fork out money for it.

Works for STI...

Also, it would be a serious 370z competitor.

tranzformer · 12-07-2011, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by KaliKev

Also, it would be a serious 370z competitor.

Depending on the track, I think the BRZ will give a 370z a run for its money (driver dependent). Of course straightline speed, the BRZ will have nothing on the more powerful 370z.

KaliKev · 12-07-2011, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by tranzformer

Depending on the track, I think the BRZ will give a 370z a run for its money (driver dependent). Of course straightline speed, the BRZ will have nothing on the more powerful 370z.

With +50-60 hp it sure will!

xc · 12-07-2011, 03:02 PM

i want the FRS in my drive way NOW!!

madfast · 12-07-2011, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by old greg

Yeah, that's pretty much the layout I had in mind as well. My only real concern was with having enough room behind the blower for a non-restrictive elbow/tb.

you can be quite creative with the packaging. the TRD tundra SC does it like this:

which is basically this but turned upside down so the intercooled manifold is on top

bFreed · 12-07-2011, 04:07 PM

Turbo def. Subaru has turbos on their racecars for a reason.

Re_Invention · 12-08-2011, 02:49 AM

Supercharger please! I like the simplicity and linear power delivery trait with a supercharger running a modest amount of boost. Give us 5psi, +35-40 hp and a warranty and 50 state emissions. Let TRD sell it aftermarket for $3k (with installation) as well!! So the early adopters don't miss out.

Later on, offer an 'off-road' upgrade: aggressive crank pulley, belt and re-tune (and fuel pump if need be). Make an extra 25-30 hp (up to 270 hp!) and no warranty coverage. Charge $500-700 for it with dealer install (or let the buyer haggle that into the price

) Maybe an air to air intercooler for $1k as well? C'mon TRD!

I just hope there won't be too much heating developing under the hood. That's one of the reasons I don't like turbo's, they need good heat to function properly. I hope there are some engine/transmission/oil cooler TRD accessories offered as well, for the track day sluts

DrunkenMime · 12-08-2011, 12:13 PM

didn't Toyoda already say there was to be NO turbos?? Why are people talking about turbos if Toyota doesn't want them??

WolfpackS2k · 12-08-2011, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tranzformer

Depending on the track, I think the BRZ will give a 370z a run for its money (driver dependent). Of course straightline speed, the BRZ will have nothing on the more powerful 370z.

The BRZ can easily beat the 370Z around a race track. All you have to do is stay behind it and pressure the 370Z until either his engine overheats or his brakes fail. Shouldn't take more than 5-6 hot laps

wcbjr · 12-08-2011, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

The BRZ can easily beat the 370Z around a race track. All you have to do is stay behind it and pressure the 370Z until either his engine overheats or his brakes fail. Shouldn't take more than 5-6 hot laps

View Poll Results: Which would you get?
Supercharged GT 86/FR-S	61	42.07%
Turbocharged BRZ	34	23.45%
GT 86/FR-S (naturally aspirated)	28	19.31%
BRZ (naturally aspirated)	13	8.97%
Other	9	6.21%
Voters: 145. You may not vote on this poll

12-07-2011, 03:02 PM	#36
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DrunkenMime Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Drives: IS300 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 161 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	didn't Toyoda already say there was to be NO turbos?? Why are people talking about turbos if Toyota doesn't want them??

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