Supercharged GT 86/FR-S/86 vs. Turbocharged BRZ - Page 2 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

M-17 · 12-07-2011, 11:08 AM

Voted for a turbo BRZ but I would prefer a supercharged BRZ.
I feel there is no problem under the hood for both cars so I can live with it.

DrunkenMime · 12-07-2011, 11:48 AM

I'm hoping for factory turbo or supercharge if available when I buy mine. probably expect 250hp or so....factory warranty and ease of smog (crucial if you live in Cali like I do)...that's all I gotta say..

Infernal · 12-07-2011, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

Same but it's going to happen until the cars are out.

These power hungry guys will likely go for a genesis and the rest of us will be perfectly happy with the 200hp car.

Not exactly - I want a powerful, nimble car, and a brand better than hyundai (which we cant get the genesis here anyway)

That realistically only leaves (for RWD):
used Porsche Cayman,
used BMW 335i/135i
and similar

Im not sure why so few people like FI - an extra 50bhp from a relatively lightweight addition to the car, squirting out of corners quicker, newer small turbo's have little lag

to drive at the same speed of a NA version @ 100% a FI version would only need to be using 80%-90% of it's capabilities, ultimately letting the car last longer due to it not being used at 100% all the time

Opinions, opinions... gotta love forums

Syldrin · 12-07-2011, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

Same but it's going to happen until the cars are out.

These power hungry guys will likely go for a genesis and the rest of us will be perfectly happy with the 200hp car.

wait dave didnt you know if we make a million posts on the same topic we will sway the opinion of a corperation that has spent 3 years developing a car. (im kidding but i'm sure it could happen)

n2oinferno · 12-07-2011, 12:07 PM

I'd go for a supercharger. I'll be happy with 200 horsepower NA for quite a while I'm sure, but an extra 50-70 horsepower wouldn't be so bad.

ft86Fan · 12-07-2011, 12:21 PM

Supercharger for me all the way.

In4FRS · 12-07-2011, 12:29 PM

I will stick NA and hope that with the bolt-ons and a tune to pick up some nice numbers

WolfpackS2k · 12-07-2011, 12:37 PM

1. 250-275
2. as already stated slightly larger brakes (for the increased speed potential) and stiffer suspension (for the added weight)
3. preferably 6 months after the car debuts, but within a year would satisfy me
4. for the Scion $26k for the Subaru $28k (seems low until you compare against it's competitors)
5. I'd prefer a supercharger b/c turbochargers muffle the exhaust note too much and the power delivery is more linear. Though on the other hand better fuel mileage might be possible with the turbo. Of course my comments were excluding centrifugal superchargers. If that's what it was, well to hell with it gimme a turbo!

All in all I think my viewpoint is very similar to Infernal's. In fact if this car disappoints me I will probably end up in a used Cayman S

Hachiroku · 12-07-2011, 12:46 PM

What the poll doesn't take into account, and which would affect these vote tallies significantly of course, is the higher price tags that the forced induction versions would carry.

Of course most people want more power. Question is, at what higher price are they still interested.

e30kawi · 12-07-2011, 12:48 PM

Whats wrong with 200hp? As long as it goes like stink I will be happy. I am hoping its comparable to my old e30. Loved the way that car drove. Aside from the bmw I have never had a car with more than 130 hp. Pumped either way, but leaning towards NA

Syldrin · 12-07-2011, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hachiroku

What the poll doesn't take into account, and which would affect these vote tallies significantly of course, is the higher price tags that the forced induction versions would carry.

Of course most people want more power. Question is, at what higher price are they still interested.

also higher insurance rates. people tend to forget to factor that in.

JDLM · 12-07-2011, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by syldrin

also higher insurance rates. people tend to forget to factor that in.

Over 25/married etc... insurance is cheap

Dave-ROR · 12-07-2011, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDLM

Over 25/married etc... insurance is cheap

Maybe in KS

Syldrin · 12-07-2011, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDLM

Over 25/married etc... insurance is cheap

i'm 25 married also i live in cali though so..... yea

View Poll Results: Which would you get?
Supercharged GT 86/FR-S	61	42.07%
Turbocharged BRZ	34	23.45%
GT 86/FR-S (naturally aspirated)	28	19.31%
BRZ (naturally aspirated)	13	8.97%
Other	9	6.21%
Voters: 145. You may not vote on this poll

12-07-2011, 12:21 PM	#20
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12-07-2011, 11:48 AM	#16
DrunkenMime Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Drives: IS300 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 161 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm hoping for factory turbo or supercharge if available when I buy mine. probably expect 250hp or so....factory warranty and ease of smog (crucial if you live in Cali like I do)...that's all I gotta say..

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e30kawi Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: CWP limited Location: Texas Posts: 187 Thanks: 165 Thanked 26 Times in 25 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Whats wrong with 200hp? As long as it goes like stink I will be happy. I am hoping its comparable to my old e30. Loved the way that car drove. Aside from the bmw I have never had a car with more than 130 hp. Pumped either way, but leaning towards NA

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