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Old 05-09-2013, 02:22 PM   #141
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Unless I missed something, the dealer's Limited has rear bumper applique ($69) and alloy wheel locks ($29.95), $348 more than the Subaru.com MSRP build price.

The over MSRP price quoted by the dealer in the link is their "discounted" Costco price. Retail is more.

I provided links that in my market a Series 10 sold at retail costs far less than a Limited for substantially the same car +/- a few accessories on either that may or may not appeal to you.

And maybe you didn't know, but if you qualify as a registered Toyota fleet customer, any eligible Toyota/Lexus/Scion (currently including 10 Series) is available at very favorable pricing. I've also heard Subaru VIP pricing is also favorable, but don't know what's involved to qualify.
You have been fooled. Dude! Alcantra leather seats are not cheap. Try to get those customized. fogs and spoiler alone costs more than those shift knobs and glowing badges combined. Not to mention, fogs and spoiler are added to enhance driving experience. The shift knobs and glowing badges are just collector's items. They are useless.

I will stop arguing with you. It seems pointless to me to explain that further more. I work in a manufacturer. I can assure you that the shift knob and glowing badges' production cost are too cheap to imagine. They aint worth your top dollars.

Like I said, you could always haggle the BRZ. I doubt you could haggle with Scion, but I've heard they would give you more on trade ins.
Also, that dealer is not the only Subaru dealership in Oregon. Shop around! As far as for the financing, it really comes down to your credit history and score. Someone got 1.29% from Subaru. I got 1.79% from Penfed. I tried some dealers to beat that down. They could not.

Subaru VIP program is awesome. You might get a brz 2% below invoice. You really need to shop around. You need to find out which dealer would honor the vip program on the brz before you join the program.
Fyi, you need to wait at least 6 months in order to join the VIP program.

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Old 05-09-2013, 02:36 PM   #142
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Most likely is due to the electrical power that is already available with the A/T console. The M/T has simply a stick which rows cables/linkages manually to the shifter mechanism inside/outside the trans. The A/T console has electrical connections that detect shifter placement and then can be tapped for futher power needs.

In other words: its easier, with less engineering, IMHO. See the thread about 'shift gear display when clutch is depressed' for a similar discussion.

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Pretty sure the lighting is powered solely by the solar cell in the top.
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hanabie, nothing personal, not arguing, debating.

We're different is all. I don't see a spoiler adding to my driving experience. Same with glowing knob or leather, so am glad my 6A/T won't have them. Proper fogs like Outback based units with PIAA's, yes. OEM's, not so much.

Those aren't the reasons I'm buying a 10 Series. I posted why earlier in this thread, guess you missed it.

Enjoy your BRZ.
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Old 05-09-2013, 02:41 PM   #144
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Pretty sure the lighting is powered solely by the solar cell in the top.
Thank you, I get the dope slap of the day!

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btw- IMO, the RS 10 looked great until I found it only came in one color: 2013's version of Camry beige: light silver... Althought the JDM trend may be 'stealth,' light (heck, most) silvers are played out.
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hanabie, nothing personal, not arguing, debating.

We're different is all. I don't see a spoiler adding to my driving experience. Same with glowing knob or leather, so am glad my 6A/T won't have them. Proper fogs like Outback based units with PIAA's, yes. OEM's, not so much.

Those aren't the reasons I'm buying a 10 Series. I posted why earlier in this thread, guess you missed it.

Enjoy your BRZ.
Do I care your reasons buying a series 10 or a ferrari? Nope.
Do I have to read your first post? Nope.
I just try to give my best to explain what the differences are. That spoiler is a functional spoiler. Spoilers are supposed to give more aerodynamics stability and traction on the rear wheel drive. I'm sure they are not only designed for look. Fogs might not work for you, but they work for some people. There is a reason why they are called fog lights, and they are offered as an option. That is because people like you and me do not need one.

I hope that clarifies it.
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Go to the scion site and mouse over the [1] (in 10 series gallery/see more)

Looks like I won't be getting a glowing shift knob
though the photo seems to disagree.

Oh well, MOMO here I come.
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Pretty sure the lighting is powered solely by the solar cell in the top.
lol.. otherwise they wouldn't be called solar powered.
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Old 05-09-2013, 04:11 PM   #148
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Do I care your reasons buying a series 10 or a ferrari? Nope.
Do I have to read your first post? Nope.
I just try to give my best to explain what the differences are. That spoiler is a functional spoiler. Spoilers are supposed to give more aerodynamics stability and traction on the rear wheel drive. I'm sure they are not only designed for look. Fogs might not work for you, but they work for some people. There is a reason why they are called fog lights, and they are offered as an option. That is because people like you and me do not need one.

I hope that clarifies it.
I've never seen any proof or even claims that the BRZ spoiler is functional on either the Scion of Subaru sites. Channeled roof and rear diffuser, yes, but that's standard on the twins.

I'll put that cash toward a set of sticky tires for auto-x.
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Thank you, I get the dope slap of the day!

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btw- IMO, the RS 10 looked great until I found it only came in one color: 2013's version of Camry beige: light silver... Althought the JDM trend may be 'stealth,' light (heck, most) silvers are played out.
Silver and white always remind me of German cars. I hope it's something like this 2014:



http://www.windingroad.com/articles/...6bd27-57854057
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Silver and white always remind me of German cars. I hope it's something like this 2014:



http://www.windingroad.com/articles/...6bd27-57854057

Yessssss! Silver is the German showcase color (save the red during Xmas time)

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I've never seen any proof or even claims that the BRZ spoiler is functional on either the Scion of Subaru sites. Channeled roof and rear diffuser, yes, but that's standard on the twins.

I'll put that cash toward a set of sticky tires for auto-x.
While not much of a difference, the spoiler is functional. Per the Subaru BRZ brochure, the coefficient of drag (COD) on a BRZ Premium is .28, while the COD is .27 on the BRZ Limited. The spoiler makes the car burn slightly less fuel.
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While not much of a difference, the spoiler is functional. Per the Subaru BRZ brochure, the coefficient of drag (COD) on a BRZ Premium is .28, while the COD is .27 on the BRZ Limited. The spoiler makes the car burn slightly less fuel.
Guess I missed it, but the only brochure I've seen is online and one of the best I've ever seen:

http://dbrochure.subaru.com/brochure...m_campaign=rab
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Just going to say this. Standard FR-S plus entry level FI option > Release 10 FR-S. Just saying
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Just going to say this. Standard FR-S plus entry level FI option > Release 10 FR-S. Just saying
I saw the pricing and I was already steered away.
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