Death at HPDE

[CSG Mike]

They kicked me out of RTA Enthusiast for using a Recaro SPG with OEM 3 point, even after showing them that the 3 point properly holds me, and that the SPG lowers my seating position enough where I'm well within the broomstick test.

Stock seat + helmet doesn't pass broomstick.

Go figure.

[EAGLE5]

I think most people just hunch down for the broomstick test.

[Gixxersixxerman]

I have a question.. I run my track events with my 700$ Aria motorcycle helmet.. I understand the reasoning of using a proper smell spec helmet for being in a car.. That my bike helmet only gets "one good hit" my question is, in a stock car say like mine, why am I wearing a helmet.. It seems that it's more dangerous as your head has to have that extra weight to throw your head around.. Of course neck rolls and Hans help with that.. But just requiring a helmet seem worse with no other protection, then not wearing one before.. My ex was in a roll over that flipped three times.. She got out with a little cut on her toe from the pedal.. I saw a guy have a one roll roll over and his neck has hurting.. True, two different cars, two different circumstances, but he said his head did jerk around a lot.. Riding with mike and robispec I can feel the extra weight if the helmet.. I just think if your going to have to wear a helmet they should require so e sort of neck brace too

Maybe you more experience racers and track drivers can help give me some insight

Thanks

[Accurate Race Shop]

From my experience you can get whip lash easier but you will most likely survive. Snell rated is puncture resistant because most people do not survive having their skull punctured. On a bike normally the rider and the bike are separated in a crash so blunt force on the ground is the biggest concern. In a car it is the sharp shredded metal the helmet is protecting you from. This is what I have been told when I asked the same question.

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[CSG Mike]

The only real difference between a motorcycle and car helmet, is the opening and a fire test.

Unless the standards changed from when I purchased my helmet.

[Gixxersixxerman]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

The only real difference between a motorcycle and car helmet, is the opening and a fire test.

Unless the standards changed from when I purchased my helmet.

I've been told the different snell test with the car helmet is because it can take multiple impacts where as the bike helmet is suppose to be just one.. And of course a hard impact, every since I got to racing bikes in early 2000 they stress even if we drop a helmet, to junk it and buy a new one..

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by Gixxersixxerman

I've been told the different snell test with the car helmet is because it can take multiple impacts where as the bike helmet is suppose to be just one.. And of course a hard impact, every since I got to racing bikes in early 2000 they stress even if we drop a helmet, to junk it and buy a new one..

That's a possible difference but I doubt the shells are really any different.. just my opinion. The primary ones I've known have been the fire retardant application and eyeport size (and that varies).

[Gixxersixxerman]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

That's a possible difference but I doubt the shells are really any different.. just my opinion. The primary ones I've known have been the fire retardant application and eyeport size (and that varies).

From what I read its mainly to do with the liner not the shell, but seeing as the liner isn't replaceable they recommend replacement at every drop.. Shoei does have helmet inspection services now that I know of for sure, they X-ray is what over been told..

[robispec]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

They kicked me out of RTA Enthusiast for using a Recaro SPG with OEM 3 point, even after showing them that the 3 point properly holds me, and that the SPG lowers my seating position enough where I'm well within the broomstick test.

Stock seat + helmet doesn't pass broomstick.

Go figure.

rule simply stated is EITHER
full oem OR
Full aftermarket
You got caught in the "HYBRID ZONE" the issue wasn't was it safe were you safer the issue was your system didn't comply with the rules.
Tech/safety checks need ZERO interpertation room...
Either OEM engineering or Full Race engineering
We went round and round on this when writing the rules and redline doesn't want to be put in the position of "certifing" a given "Hybrid"

So OEM or you are "ALL IN"

Robi

[robispec]

well this is the first of many installs

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...883#post902883

[track_warrior]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

A 4 point should never be in a track car period IMO. Safest is 100% oem or 100% safety equipment, never a mix of oem and real safety gear. 4 ponts without anti sub belts are less safe than oem belts.

Totally agree with this! I ran stock until i got my 4 point weld in roll bar + non reclining buckets + 6 point g force harnesses.

For Auto X a 4 point and harness bar is fine.