For those who have doubt in the Vortech kit please read.

[skatery1989]

Originally Posted by 2forme

If he were here, I'd ask if he got that for free, too.

Your not talking to him anymore?

[industrial]

Originally Posted by Sportsguy83

Yes, we know that. The thing is that the Vortech kit uses what is designed as a BPV to vent to atmosphere and that's the confusion. That's why I said, its a BPV being used as a BOV. At the end of the day it doesn't matter. We are just bored.

Ah gotcha. You guys were going in circles and starting to confuse me.

[2forme]

Originally Posted by skatery1989

Your not talking to him anymore?

No I do, I was just being sarcastic. Like how every part he gets discounted or free is "perfect" haha.

[Hawaiian]

Originally Posted by 2forme

If he were here, I'd ask if he got that for free, too.

I'd say no...

65 well spent for.anyone who buys header, Amazon model 1793 -Gem

Originally Posted by skatery1989

Your not talking to him anymore?

I think he just misses his online sparring partner.

[2forme]

I'm....sooo...ronery.... so ronery....so ronery and sadry arone....

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by ft_sjo

I feel sorry for the clutch in the first one though!

This.

[jkonquer]

Originally Posted by charged86

Free if you have purchased the kit for. Frs/brz The new kits come with the updated blower

so was there a version 2 of vortech s/c already?

[2forme]

Originally Posted by jkonquer

so was there a version 2 of vortech s/c already?

Yup, the initial version wasn't living up to the power claims, so they designed a new compressor that flows much better. You want version 2, not version 1.

[jkonquer]

awesome sounds like a deal breaker

[Brian@Vortech]

Originally Posted by 2forme

Yup, the initial version wasn't living up to the power claims, so they designed a new compressor that flows much better.

Woah woah woah hold on a second 2forme. That is a completely false statement. The H67BC system was making every bit of power that we claimed it would. However, when going into this project, we did not know that more than 5-6psi was safe on these engines. We had already been designing a higher output setup for non-stock cars, anticipating the need for it down the road. When it came about that more boost could be safe on a stock engine, we accelerated plans and released the higher output compressor. To avoid me typing everything over again, I will quote myself from the thread on the subject.

Originally Posted by Brian@Vortech

We at Vortech, as most enthusiasts know, are very meticulous and thorough in the development of our supercharging systems. In keeping with our commitment to design and engineer the best, most reliable supercharging systems in the world, and taking into account the 12.5:1 compression ratio of the FA20 engine, we initially designed the FR-S/BRZ systems to deliver 5-6psi of boost and deliver a safe and exciting boosted experience for our customers that was CARB E.O. compliant. Following months of testing at our facility, along with a select number of our strategic tuning partners in the field, we have determined that an upgraded Vortech system set at 9psi on the FA20 engine can be equally as reliable and up to the standards you have come to expect from Vortech. Therefore, all Vortech systems for the FR-S/BRZ will now include the upgraded V-3 H67B compressor set at 9psi, with the capability of supporting 13+ psi for those interested in pushing the envelope outside of E.O. compliance. We have applied and are proceeding through the E.O. process as originally planned, at the 9psi H67B output level. We are confident this adaptation will deliver even more of the exceptional performance you want and expect from Vortech Superchargers.

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by Brian@Vortech

Woah woah woah hold on a second 2forme. That is a completely false statement. The H67BC system was making every bit of power that we claimed it would.

Brian, based on several third party Dynos posted on this site from several different Vortech owners (and some other Dynos not posted on the site from Vortech owners), it was NOT living up to the HP claims.

[Brian@Vortech]

Originally Posted by Sportsguy83

Brian, based on several third party Dynos posted on this site from several different Vortech owners (and some other Dynos not posted on the site from Vortech owners), it was NOT living up to the HP claims.

Please provide me with the horsepower claim that was not lived up to that you are referring to. Since our official numbers were never released until the complete systems were released with the H67B, there were no numbers to "not live up to". All systems sold before then were tuner kits, which required tuning to be provided from a 3rd party. All stated compressor capability of the H67BC and H67B have been true and proven. In fact, the only power numbers posted up at all in the first few weeks/months were from Perrin, and all of those were with the H67BC in question. I'll be the first to admit that some people may not have been blown away by the lower output setups, but please don't get the facts twisted. We have never not delivered on a power claim.

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by Brian@Vortech

Please provide me with the horsepower claim that was not lived up to that you are referring to. Since our official numbers were never released until the complete systems were released with the H67B, there were no numbers to "not live up to". All systems sold before then were tuner kits, which required tuning to be provided from a 3rd party. All stated compressor capability of the H67BC and H67B have been true and proven.

I am sorry, this was a conversation a long time ago and I don't know exactly in what thread it was, but I did read this several times (numbers not living up to expectations).

@2forme will know for sure because he was right in the middle of it (I believe with Perrin).


(I could be wrong and I'm opened to being corrected, but that is what I remember).

Originally Posted by Brian@Vortech

The H67BC system was making every bit of power that we claimed it would.

What power number did Vortech claim the old compressor would make?

[DJCarbine]

Originally Posted by Sportsguy83

I am sorry, this was a conversation a long time ago and I don't know exactly in what thread it was, but I did read this several times (numbers not living up to expectations).

@2forme will know for sure because he was right in the middle of it (I believe with Perrin).


What HP number did Vortech claim the old compressor would make?

I don't think Vortech ever claimed any numbers, I do remember reading threads about how it felt lackluster but still had plenty of power... but I think that was because there was no "boost" like when a turbo spools up, just a linear power increase. So basically it felt slow but the user said he would check his speed and he would be going 90 but it just felt like it was going slower.

Either way, they released the upgraded compressor and its getting some nice numbers for all the bench racers