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Old 04-15-2013, 05:12 PM   #421
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yeah I'm familiar with the route and the hazards, but I'm worried about taking a large group through there. Most of the drivers will be unfamiliar with the route and I bet there will be many inexperienced drivers who want to participate. Doing the full route might be asking for trouble. I can warn and shout all I want at the driver's meeting but I am certain someone will tune me out and not even hear half of what I say, then jump in their car and think they are Initial D drift heroes.

I'm pretty sure that like the last time, the organizers will ask everyone to sign a waiver that releases the organizers from any liability should anything unfortunate happen during the event or the drive. I thought it was kind of comical the first time I saw that, but now that I've agreed to help plan this drive I am starting to think it's a great idea. Nonetheless we want to make sure that safety is the first priority, and having fun is the second priority.
I hear ya man, I had the same reservations when I planned the drive for the previous bbq. Mine's rd. is almost worse since the road is much tighter (no epic u-turns on this one ). Let me know what I can do to help, I'm semi-familiar with the route, so I could lead or tail, which ever is needed. Let me know when you do the recon run, would love to join if I could.
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Old 04-15-2013, 05:23 PM   #422
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plato and bryan, you two should be the head organizers of the route for mines rd route.

and yes waivers will be signed again to release liability.
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Old 04-16-2013, 01:09 PM   #423
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I drove B to A a few months back when these ideas just came up, and I think continuing to Mt Hammy is a bad idea imo. When Iclub threads for BAM start about Mt Hamilton, the immediate response is "dibs on brembos". While we dont have to deal with kids thinking they are awd invincible, we do have the Takumi complex mentioned before.

I know we have a lot of south bay peeps that will take it anyway, but I think the official route should end at the junction to help limit liability along with the waivers. The central valley people will split a different way anyway and some may not feel comfortable taking the rest of it with a large group or at all, but may feel slight pressure to not seem to wuss out with such a large group.

Im busy all weekend or I would volunteer to help with the recon at least (unless you all do a midweek afterwork drive, then msg me.)
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I drove B to A a few months back when these ideas just came up, and I think continuing to Mt Hammy is a bad idea imo. When Iclub threads for BAM start about Mt Hamilton, the immediate response is "dibs on brembos". While we dont have to deal with kids thinking they are awd invincible, we do have the Takumi complex mentioned before.

I know we have a lot of south bay peeps that will take it anyway, but I think the official route should end at the junction to help limit liability along with the waivers. The central valley people will split a different way anyway and some may not feel comfortable taking the rest of it with a large group or at all, but may feel slight pressure to not seem to wuss out with such a large group.

Im busy all weekend or I would volunteer to help with the recon at least (unless you all do a midweek afterwork drive, then msg me.)
Yeah, thanks Finch, I had the same concerns. P and I are still hashing it out and the recon will give us a better idea. I did think of your idea as an option, with cencal folks heading east, south bay heading towards Mt. Ham and SF/North/east bay heading back up Mines. We're also planning on breaking it up to smaller groups with a staggered start. Unfortunately/fortunately, with the current small number of folks registered, we might be able to get away with just a couple of small groups.
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Yeah, thanks Finch, I had the same concerns. P and I are still hashing it out and the recon will give us a better idea. I did think of your idea as an option, with cencal folks heading east, south bay heading towards Mt. Ham and SF/North/east bay heading back up Mines. We're also planning on breaking it up to smaller groups with a staggered start. Unfortunately/fortunately, with the current small number of folks registered, we might be able to get away with just a couple of small groups.
Staggered starts would be a good idea (if the sign ups increase). It would be very helpful to have anyone leading a group do the recon drive. And test the range of two ways in the terrain would be helpful I would think to see how far back/ahead you could radio a different group.
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great suggestions and points, finch. I do think it is more conservative to just end the drive at Junction and let people go their own way after that. However if we are doing staggered starts we will have to be careful in the timing, would be a bit messy if some groups are heading back towards Livermore from the Junction at the same time another group is coming down from Lake Del Valle. Guess the East Bay group should roll out last.
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hmm... you're right. I like the idea of organizing the run groups by final destination. I'm worried though, don't think there's much room to park/gather for a stop before break up. Maybe we should call the Junction and give them a heads up?
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awesome idea for the run groups there P
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hmm... you're right. I like the idea of organizing the run groups by final destination. I'm worried though, don't think there's much room to park/gather for a stop before break up. Maybe we should call the Junction and give them a heads up?
I don't think we can ask/expect much from the Junction, seeing as we are not planning to stop and have lunch there or anything like that. More like just a brief rest stop or turnaround point. I think if we have like 10 cars or less in a group we could gather around those mailboxes off of Del Puerto Cyn Rd like we did for our Dawn Patrol photo shoot. I've seen other biker groups gather there too.
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My cousin and I are planing a drive this Saturday. It will start from Daly City and might end in San Jose. Anyone up for it? We will meet at Starbucks in Daly City, near Serramonte(where PetSmart is) around 9:30-10:00. Then from there we will go to highway 35 then down Sharp Park to highway 1 then up 92 to 35. Lunch break @ Alice's around 12-1. Then down highway 35 to 84 then back to 1 and end up back at Serramonte/Starbucks.
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I don't think we can ask/expect much from the Junction, seeing as we are not planning to stop and have lunch there or anything like that. More like just a brief rest stop or turnaround point. I think if we have like 10 cars or less in a group we could gather around those mailboxes off of Del Puerto Cyn Rd like we did for our Dawn Patrol photo shoot. I've seen other biker groups gather there too.
Is there a semi-meet this weekend to scout the drive and try the radios? I'd be up for Saturday or Sunday mid-morning.. or I could try waking up before 8?
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I was thinking of buying some two way radios myself, just for the drives and whatever. I could also help with the big bbq drive if there's any need. Any suggestions for brands/types of radios?

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I was thinking of buying some two way radios myself, just for the drives and whatever. I could also help with the big bbq drive if there's any need. Any suggestions for brands/types of radios?

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Even I was looking into it today! Thanks for posting this!
I picked up a couple of mid model Cobra 2-ways from walmart for like 35. they have worked good so far
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